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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:26 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:26 am to Topwater Trout
Nobody on that list surprises me, although I would think Israel would be right up there with them.
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:28 am to LSUJuice
Any new info past the simulator files being deleted?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:29 am to LSUJuice
True
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:29 am to Topwater Trout
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The actual quote I heard yesterday was they have the best air defenses in the world. Can't remember if it was FAA or US military that said that. Either way their defenses must be pretty damn good to say that.
Corruption is rampant both within and outside of the military in China and other border countries in the area. If this hijacking was well planed maybe the radar operators on that particular night were simply been paid off in advance to look the other way.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:30 am to EA6B
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In the U.S. the last time I checked there was no requirement for civilian aircraft to have a transponder or even a radio if flying VFR and not in controlled airspace, don't know about other countries.
Entering into and out of the ADIZ, you are required mode C. All aircraft that fly above 10k are required to be equipped and have transponder turned on. Usually, flying VFR you would squawk 1200. (I'm sure you knew the code for that).
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:31 am to ninthward
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irrelevant, there are multiple aircraft from multiple airlines
How many planes flew that route that night?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:32 am to Napoleon
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But since all coastal areas are ADIZ zones that is moot.
Yep, I forgot about the ADZ!
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:33 am to JAXTiger16
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:34 am to EA6B
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Corruption is rampant both within and outside of the military in China and other border countries in the area. If this hijacking was well planed maybe the radar operators on that particular night were simply been paid off in advance to look the other way.
Increasing the entire conspiracy even more? And still no chatter intercepted before or after per intel sources.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:38 am to Topwater Trout
Agreed 
The more people you let in, the greater chance of people talking. Plus that's a lot of people you have to pay off and find in the first place. That radar operator is probably just a 25 yr old kid like me. Plus you don't know who's working the shifts or what radars would detect you.
The more people you let in, the greater chance of people talking. Plus that's a lot of people you have to pay off and find in the first place. That radar operator is probably just a 25 yr old kid like me. Plus you don't know who's working the shifts or what radars would detect you.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:40 am to JAXTiger16
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Usually, flying VFR you would squawk 1200
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The following areas require the operation of a Mode C transponder:
Operations within Class A, Class B, and Class C airspace.
Operations within 30 nautical miles of the primary airport within Class B airspace from the surface to 10,000 feet msl (see airports listed below).
Operations above the ceiling and within the lateral boundaries of Class B and C airspace.
Operations above 10,000 feet msl in the contiguous 48 states, excluding the airspace at and below 2,500 feet agl.
The AIM states in Section 4-1-19(a)(3) that for airborne operations in Class G airspace, the transponder should be operating unless otherwise requested by ATC.
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According to 14 CFR 99.13, no person may operate an aircraft into or out of the United States, or into, within, or across an ADIZ designated in subpart B unless operating a transponder with Mode C. Certain exemptions might apply to aircraft that were not originally certified with an engine-driven electrical system; see 99.13(d).
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Squawk Codes
1200 Visual Flight Rules (VFR)
7500 Hijack
7600 Communications failure
7700 emergency
7777 military intercept code
From AOPA
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 11:42 am
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:43 am to Napoleon
quote:,,and this is why we know exactly what happened on 9/11
The more people you let in, the greater chance of people talking. Plus that's a lot of people you have to pay off and find in the first place. That radar operator is probably just a 25 yr old kid like me. Plus you don't know who's working the shifts or what radars would detect you.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:43 am to supadave3
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Yeah, it may be more common there than most places. It was the only time it's ever happened to me. We were wobbling a good bit coming down and then when we were 20 feet or so above the runway, the engines throttled back up and we took off again. Crazy.
I fly in and out of Front Range airports pretty often and while I've never experienced a go around here, I can believe that they're not that uncommon. Summer days can be quite hot and dry. That along with the elevation and mountain-induced turbulence all combine to narrow the operating envelope, especially during landing. Like Napoleon said, airspeed, rate of descent, angle of attack all have to line up just right and if there's any doubt, going around is your best option.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:44 am to JAXTiger16
I'm just not a huge conspiracy theorist type. I hope they find the plane and the recorders just to find out that this plan wasn't some brilliant conspiracy.
ETA: not that I believe it's possible but can a 777 catch up to and find another commercial aircraft if their own transponder is off? I guess what I am asking is...they would only be relying on visual contact?
ETA: not that I believe it's possible but can a 777 catch up to and find another commercial aircraft if their own transponder is off? I guess what I am asking is...they would only be relying on visual contact?
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 11:48 am
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:54 am to Napoleon
Whoa "the singing astronaut" is on CNN saying that Nasa and some private company just releases twenty eight shoe boxed sized satellites that will take pictures every second (5 miles per second) will give highly accurate and fast changing images of earth. Still not fully operational. Will be able to used to find lost planes, spot wildfires, etc...
story link
story link
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 11:55 am
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:56 am to Topwater Trout
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ETA: not that I believe it's possible but can a 777 catch up to and find another commercial aircraft if their own transponder is off? I guess what I am asking is...they would only be relying on visual contact?
I'm not 100% sure if they have an IFF receiver onboard. If they do then they can find another aircraft using that but still have to speed up to catch up which is hard.
If they don't, they can use TCAS to find another aircraft.
If they turned TCAS off, then it's all visual.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:00 pm to JAXTiger16
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If they don't, they can use TCAS to find another aircraft.
And if they use it the other plane would see them right? Making a rendezvous with another plane even less likely... Unless that pilot was in on it
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:03 pm to Napoleon
Simple map based off of compiled information.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:04 pm to JAXTiger16
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If they don't, they can use TCAS to find another aircraft.
If they turned TCAS off, then it's all visual.
TCAS is independent of the transponder, so I think you can use it without a transponder on.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:07 pm to Topwater Trout
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And if they use it the other plane would see them right? Making a rendezvous with another plane even less likely... Unless that pilot was in on it
Yes, TCAS is an active system which means if it's on you will b seen also. But don't quote me on this, I think you can only see in front and to the sides, not behind you.
And yes, TCAS is completely independent.
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