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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:30 pm to
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:30 pm to
Malaysians.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:44 pm to
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The idea that someone would turn off everything, go through complicated evasive maneuvers so they could ditch the plane deep in the Indian Ocean makes no sense. BBC reporter tweeting earlier Malaysian officials told him they privately think plane landed in western china (pinged in the arc) but won't say anything till confirmed. Think it's Uighur related. Had to fly low and slow to get there. I will find link.


Alternate theory from another board:


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i must say i finally do not believe all the fancy rumours. i think they had somekind of an initially undetected smoldering fire in the electronic bay which disabled one system after another - starting with acars. after system failures began they decided to turn back to malaysia , using the heading mode . just in the turn the fire melted through the structure resulting in a rapid decompression. the crew oxygen bottles, stored in the electronic bay, failed and the pilots were out of order. the decompression by itself also put off this fire. the autopilot continued to work and stucked in the turn on a heading towards indian ocean where the plane continued until fuel exhaustion and then crashed. any news on altitude changes etc are just false rumour from the malysian side. it maybe that "simple".
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:46 pm to
I don't know what to think happened. Frick. We need some damn evidence.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:06 am to
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the decompression by itself also put off this fire. the autopilot continued to work and stucked in the turn on a heading towards indian ocean where the plane continued until fuel exhaustion and then crashed. any news on altitude changes etc are just false rumour from the malysian side. it maybe that "simple".


This would make sense, except the plane made two 90 degree turns after crossing back over Malaysia which conveniently kept the plane flying around Thai controlled airspace, doesn't seem random.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71018 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:34 am to
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i think they had somekind of an initially undetected smoldering fire in the electronic bay which disabled one system after another


If systems had been failing due to a fire, Boeing would have been getting data coming back regarding the system failures - just like Air France did. The fact that no data was downloaded means this theory is virtually impossible.

Nice try though. But ultimately wrong.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10316 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:44 am to
I honestly don't think the plane crashed. They would have found it by now.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:46 am to
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I honestly don't think the plane crashed. They would have found it by now.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64505 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:10 am to
I have kept up with and read every page of this thread and I have been fascinated and learned a good bit of stuff as well

This is still completely wild but hopefully they can find some hard evidence at some point soon
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:38 am to
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systems had been failing due to a fire, Boeing would have been getting data coming back regarding the system failures - just like Air France did. The fact that no data was downloaded means this theory is virtually impossible.


"system failure" ,in Air France? From what I have ascertained there was no system failure at all, but a bad co pilot flew a nearly 100% operational jet(Pitot tubes temporarily blocked) into the Ocean.


From what I have read the plane functioned as it was built to , but unfortunately the Jr. Pilot was incompetent.
Posted by J311slx
Las Vegas
Member since Sep 2011
1978 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 4:11 am to
I'll leave this here. Probably nothing but an interesting article...

Could MH370 have been flown to taliban area

Siap
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 4:21 am to
quote:

From what I have read the plane functioned as it was built to , but unfortunately the Jr. Pilot was incompetent.



Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:51 am to
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I honestly don't think the plane crashed. They would have found it by now.


I have been in one aircraft crash into the water and watched another from above, all in combat.

They don't float long, particularly if they broke up upon hitting the water, they sink very quickly.

Depending on the current, wave action, winds, a lot of things, depth of water - I think there is a period of time where if they do not locate it, if it went into the water, they may never find it.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
11533 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:57 am to
Haven't seen this posted.

Map of possible runways the plane could have landed based on a runway of 5000ft and a range of 2200nm.

LINK
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105197 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:58 am to
Not to get too far off topic, but I for one would be interested in hearing your story, if you're willing to talk about it.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70002 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:10 am to
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Bbc reporter Article quotes of A fisherman said he saw the lights of a low-flying aircraft near Kuala Besar, near the Malay - Thai border, around 1:30am local time. Aziz Ibrahim, who was in his boat at sea, told Malaysia's The Star newspaper the plane was flying so low that the lights were “as big as coconuts”.


Reported day after crash. Also that was 9 minutes after transponder went off...which I think makes this impossible.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105197 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:13 am to
It may work, depending on how accurate the time was. Did the guy look at his watch or did he just estimate the time?
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:15 am to
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Not to get too far off topic, but I for one would be interested in hearing your story, if you're willing to talk about it.



1. My aircraft was a Cobra helicopter which has an enclosed cockpit. I had an engine failure at 300 feet. With a helicopter going into the water the blades will skip off of the water, just like when you throw a rock and cause it to skip, then the blades will bend and come into the cockpit, killing the pilots.

To avoid this - as the aircraft is entering the water you have to shove her over on her side so the blades will contact the water at 90 degrees and snap off, which it did, the transmission which sits just behind the backseat pilot can come forward out of its mounting, which mine did, but fortunately never folded over on us.

With an enclosed cockpit we had water to our knees almost immediately, getting the canopy open and getting out of an enclosed cockpit with the aircraft on its side, to snap the blades, was quite a challenge, we managed as she sunk, literally. All happened in a matter of moments.

2. The one I watched I was flying Gunship cover for, a Huey, both doors wide open, as you would expect for a Lift Mission. The aircraft was shot down just has it had lifted off of an island in the middle of the Mekong River. As the aircraft went in, nose low on its right side, with the doors open she immediately filled and they were under in less than 2 seconds. One minute there was an aircraft, in the next the river swallowed her and her crew, whole, just gone.

Most of the crew escaped.

All this was in 1970



This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 6:16 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105197 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:18 am to
Damn. Glad you made it
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70002 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:19 am to
I think where the plane was and the fisher and report of where it was 9 min later makes it impossible
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:30 am to
Me Too! My front seat in the aircraft was from Louisiana also.
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