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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:06 pm to
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no wide body jet has ever had a successful belly landing on water.


And couple that with - at night - and, to put it in Olympics terms - that would make it a "very high degree of difficulty".

A successful water landing with a passenger heavy would be the fuselage in 3 or fewer pieces - if the pilot lives through that - you buy the man (or woman) a beer.

Sully's A320 is about 1/4 the weight and half the length of a 777 - to put things in perspective.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109093 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:07 pm to
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I think all theories should start here: Why did the Malaysian's mislead everyone? To me it seems like they are hiding a big screw up or they are in cahoots with another country in some geopolitical plot.


Or they are just grossly incompetent.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61719 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:07 pm to
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where the hell is the wreckage


Well, considering they don't even know what fcking ocean/sea they are supposed to be looking in, I"m guessing we haven't stumbled upon it yet.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:08 pm to
The fact that no wreckage has been found still leads me to believe like it was hijacked and landed somewhere else.

Granted they may be looking in the completely wrong damn ocean, but with all the shipping vessels in that area, someone would have come across pieces of the plane if it had crashed/been shot down
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26675 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

I assume my hijacking prediction is still in the air?


Unlike the pla...

nevermind
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95496 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Unlike the pla...


This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:09 pm to
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I assume my hijacking prediction is still in the air?

It has a better chance of being in the air than this plane that's for sure.

Jinx ITDawg
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26675 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:09 pm to
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The fact that no wreckage has been found still leads me to believe like it was hijacked and landed somewhere else


All surrounded countries were alerted when the plane didn't get picked up by Vietnam Air Traffic Control. I can't imagine that some other countries military wouldn't have picked up a plane on their radar...This doesn't seem logical to me at all. Granted, none of it seems logical anyways.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109093 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

I assume my hijacking prediction is still in the air?




Unlike the pla...


If aliens took the plane it could still technically be in the air.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110833 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:11 pm to
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no wide body jet has ever had a successful belly landing on water.


What's the logistical distinction between a "wide body jet" trying that sort of landing and just a regular passenger jet like the guy landed in the Hudson River a few years ago? It seems like, if anything, the wide body might be beneficial, by giving you more surface area to distribute the landing.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:11 pm to
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Or they are just grossly incompetent.


Nope. I don't think so. The airports, air force, etc would STILL have this data and had it day one.

This isn't the first airplane to fly in the country. This plane was being flown by a well established international airline. They KNEW exactly where and how they lost contact as soon as it happened.

Anyone with any experience in the big data industry knows that. But as usual, the information initially released was filtered and then "corrected" FOUR days later.

There's a point where the level of incompetence needed for all this false information to be spread is less believable than an actual Klingon cloaking device.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:14 pm to
The Daily Caller ?@DailyCaller · 2m
US believes Flight 370 flew 4 hours after transponder disabled, Malaysia denies LINK

Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109093 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:14 pm to
All I know is I hope they find this plane soon so I can get some work done... and of course to provide closure for the families.
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:15 pm to
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The Daily Caller ?@DailyCaller · 2m
US believes Flight 370 flew 4 hours after transponder disabled, Malaysia denies


Exhibit 15,337 of my post above.
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
4922 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:15 pm to
possible they had everyone looking in the wrong spot for a few days so they could "clean up" their mess, whatever that may be. then once its cleaned up, since they knew the info about them knowing it turned would get out eventually, point people closer towards the actual location...
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109093 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:16 pm to
I placed my bet 2 days ago that Malaysia shot the plane down and is trying to cover it up.
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
4922 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:17 pm to
based on my post above, im thinking this may be the right answer
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12384 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:17 pm to
Top 10 Airline Disappearances (some of these still haven't been found)(and it may be a good idea to never fly British South American Airways)

LINK

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The disappearance of Malaysian Flight MH 370 is not alone in the mysterious realm of airline disappearances. Flight MH 370 vanished mysteriously on Saturday in the South China Sea. While it is extremely uncommon for an aircraft to just completely vanish off radar, it is certainly not the first time it’s happened. Here are ten of the most most famous airline disappearances:

British South American Airways: In 1947 a British Airways Flight with 11 passengers disappeared without a trace in the Andes Mountains. In 1998, over 50 years later, two Argentinian mountain climbers found wreckage of the crash and a later expedition found the remains of the crash victims. It was speculated that the plane crashed into Mount Tupungato and was buried in an avalanche.

Big Band Leader Glen Miller’s Flight Over English Channel: Big band leader Glen Miller was on a flight to Paris to perform for serviceman in France. On December 14, 1944 his single engine airplane disappeared over the English channel. Many theories abound, but it is believed that his plane was flying under a flight of British Lancaster heavy bombers who jettisoned their bomb load when their mission was aborted.

Air France Flight 447: An Air France Airbus A330 bound from Rio de Janeiro to Paris crashed in the Atlantic Ocean killing all 228 passengers. It took air and sea rescue teams five days to find the wreckage. After a three-year investigation if was determined that ice crystalized, causing the autopilot to malfunction.

Flight 19 Bermuda Triangle: On Dec. 5, 1945 a training mission of six Navy Grumman TBF Avenger torpedo bombers took off from Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Within two hours the pilots reported that they were disoriented and their compasses were not working. They were never heard from again and no wreckage was ever found. All 14 men of the crews were lost.

Flying Tiger Line Flight 739: On March 16, 1962 a military Lockheed Super Constellation took off from Guam en route to the Philippines. They were never seen again. No distress call was ever issued. No wreckage was ever found. All 107 passengers were declared missing and presumed dead.

British South American Airways Star Ariel: The Star Ariel disappeared during a flight from Bermuda to Jamaica on January 17, 1949. The Star Ariel took off in perfect weather but was troubled with communication problems throughout the flight. They were never seen or heard from again. All 20 passengers were reported missing and presumed dead.

Amelia Earhart: On July 2, 1937 American aviator Amelia Earhart piloted a two-engine Lockheed Electra in her attempt to fly around the world. Earhart, who had once completed a solo flight across the Atlantic ocean, disappeared in the central Pacific Ocean. It is widely believed she ran out of fuel and crashed into the sea.

Egypt Air Flight 990: On Oct. 31, 1999 Egypt Air Flight 990 took off from JFK Airport in New York and was bound for Cairo, Egypt. The Boeing 767 never made it. It crashed in the Atlantic Ocean just south of Massachusetts, killing all 217 passengers and crew. That National Transportation Safety Board ruled that pilot error was the cause of the crash.

Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571: On Oct. 13, 1972 a Uruguayan Air Force plane carrying 45 passengers and crew disappeared in the Andes Mountains en route to Santiago, Chile. After search and rescue efforts failed to locate the crash, the plane was considered lost. On December 23, 1972 and 72 days later , two of the passengers appeared out of the mountains in Chile. Only 16 of the original 45 passengers and crew survived. This was one of the more famous airline disappearances and is immortalized in the 1993 film Alive.

British South American Airways Star Tiger: On Jan. 30, 1948 an Avro Tudor IV four engine aircraft disappeared without a trace on a flight from the Azores to Bermuda. All 31 passengers and crew died including British war hero Sir Arthur Coningham. This is the third time that British South American Airways have made this list of top 10 mysterious airline disappearances.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26675 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:18 pm to
Well, it sounds like Malaysia Air stopped paying for the engine pinging because it cost too much money for RR to monitor. However, that doesnt mean that RR stopped recording it.....

Also, I am starting to feel like the pilot said "frick it" and turne off the transponder, headed to the middle of the Indian Ocean, where he ditched it into the Ocean in hopes no one would ever find the black box.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:18 pm to
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I placed my bet 2 days ago that Malaysia shot the plane down and is trying to cover it up.


Been there a while myself. In fact, that was my gut reaction when I first heard of the disappearance. Them or China.

Either way, we are dealing with intentional false information and it looks like the USA is starting to prod Malaysia a little with this latest information.
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