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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:48 pm to
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If it was terrorism, I can see the pilots just trying to get the plane down and it crashing similar to this.
true, but seems like a more difficult maneuver at night...and if it indeed flew straight for four hours, it doesn't lend itself to a prolonged struggle in the cockpit.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Malaysia probably shot it down


wreckage would be close to malaysia...not possible IMO
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
9146 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:49 pm to
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If the pilots were alive when it crashed then it would've been a belly landing unless something extreme happened. But if they weren't, it was probably a pretty hard collision with the water.


I would assume the autopilot would go into secondary control mode, try to maintain altitude until stick shaker, nose down, then up until stick shaker, repeat until it hits the surface.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:49 pm to
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So are they now talking again about it heading into Q10?
No way in hell it's in Q10. IMO
Posted by BeerCity
Asheville, North Carolina
Member since Nov 2013
622 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:49 pm to
Yeah, it has to be a good distance out in the direction of or in the Indian Ocean. I think the US will find it out there somewhere.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

wreckage would be close to malaysia

Its actually already in a landfill somewhere in malaysia
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:52 pm to
I have read every page of this thread since it started. This really struck a nerve:

quote:

SEPANG, Malaysia — After four days of reticence and evasive answers, the Malaysian military acknowledged on Wednesday that it had recorded, but initially ignored, radar signals that could have prompted a mission to intercept and track a missing jetliner — data that vastly expands the area where the plane might have traveled.



The incompetence and misinformation that has come out of Malaysia during this entire search is truly mind-boggling. They knew a plane went off of the radar, yet they ignored radar signals that could have led to an interception?

quote:

Military radar then detected an unidentified aircraft at several points, apparently headed west across the Malaysian peninsula and out into the Indian Ocean,


Missing plane + an unidentified aircraft flying around at the same time, and not one person there put 2+2 together and thought "hey, this may be related"? And then, they decide to just keep if a secret for a week or so, while everyone searches the wrong area? Makes sense.

Again, everything about this scenario this blows my mind. These families deserve closure and it seems like everyone is getting the run around. I can't imagine being one of the family members. My prayers are with them.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109093 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:53 pm to
Were there any weather systems in the area at the time? Until we know more a sharknado can't be completely ruled out.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:54 pm to
it was said to have had enough fuel for about 7500 miles...



so it could have traveled a lot further than what this picture shows
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

GRITS79

quote:

Malaysia = complete clusterfrick

Fact


I think you missed this.....
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:55 pm to



The complete clusterfrick has been apparent since at least Sunday, IMO.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74167 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

..not possible IMO

this whole incident shouldn't be possible.

No mayday calls. no transponder squawk.
Pilot could have just said F the world, but then you would think in the time it takes to drop from 35,000 feet there would have been a mayday call from the first officer. If he was dead then maybe the relief pilot? If no relief pilot, then the head steward who would know that a dive was wrong. She would pick up her handset and call the cockpit with no answer she would call Malaysian Airlines.

We saw that instance a few times on 9/11. Calls made from stewardesses. Though that was an obvious hijacking, as soon as it happened the entire plane knew.

Let say pilot and copilot had a death pact. Why keep flying for hours?

Then lets say it was terrorism? Why no attempt to squawk hijacking?
Why no radio call that the cockpit was breached?


So lets say they lost coms.. They I know for a fact have back up battery powered radios. Little crap Cessnas have back-up radios in many of them, that are portable and used for emergencies. So the radio thing perplexes me.

I figured this thing broke-up mid-air. But there are just too many questions.


Posted by BeerCity
Asheville, North Carolina
Member since Nov 2013
622 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:57 pm to
If it broke up midair, where the hell is the wreckage? The whole thing is ridiculously mystifying.
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
9146 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

what this picture shows


A concentric circle centering on the last known position, at an altitude near the tropopause is a huge fail from the get-go. I don't have the wind charts, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess it isn't zero kts at the various locations and altitudes within that circle.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:59 pm to
It was shot down while cloaked....won't ever be found.
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
9146 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Little crap Cessnas


...some offense taken.
Posted by BeerCity
Asheville, North Carolina
Member since Nov 2013
622 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:02 pm to
A cloaking device. I used to be fascinated by that concept while watching Star Trek as a kid. Never thought it would be an actual possibility in my lifetime.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

If it broke up midair, where the hell is the wreckage? The whole thing is ridiculously mystifying.


The simplest answer is usually the correct one.

Where did we get almost all of the initial data and information? Malaysia.

The Malaysian's, therefore, most probably started this whole thing off with false information.

The question is why?

I think all theories should start here: Why did the Malaysian's mislead everyone? To me it seems like they are hiding a big screw up or they are in cahoots with another country in some geopolitical plot.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:06 pm to
takeoff spot to Beijing was 2400 miles or so...

and they had enough fuel for 7500 miles...
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:06 pm to
extremely busy at work today and cannot keep up... I assume my hijacking prediction is still in the air?

Thanks!
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