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re: Officer-involved shooting in Minneapolis. 20 year old black male shot and killed. (update)

Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75191 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:53 pm to
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While I agree in principle I think the public sees the act of pulling the trigger as much more egregious than the crime that began the initial traffic stop.

As I said, there is no nuance to this debate.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46205 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:54 pm to
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Imagine thinking the police should be responsible when they frick up makes you a commie.


Imagine thinking a cop fricks up just because CNN said so.

Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8118 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:54 pm to
Even though the discharge of the weapon is an accident I have no problem with cops shooting someone that, while resisting arrest, jumps in a car.

A car is a weapon, probably one of the most dangerous weapons a person can have. You can take out way more people with a vehicle than a gun.

Cops should be fired but should not face charges nor should the family receive a settlement. This young man made a poor decision and it cost him his life. It's unfortunate and hopefully better training can come from it but at the end of the day HIS poor choices lead to this result.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216475 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:55 pm to
Facts.....
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:56 pm to
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Imagine thinking a cop fricks up just because CNN said so.


I couldn’t care less about CNN or their agenda. I know what they and many liberals are doing with these opportunities. Is it crazy to think they’re despicable while simultaneously thinking LEOs frick up and deserve consequences too?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46205 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:57 pm to
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Is it crazy to think they’re despicable while simultaneously thinking LEOs frick up and deserve consequences too?


Of course not. The issue is when you base your decision on LEO's fricking up from them.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:58 pm to
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Cops should be fired but should not face charges nor should the family receive a settlement.


That’s illogical. If she should be fired, the family is getting a settlement.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75191 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:58 pm to
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Is it crazy to think they’re despicable while simultaneously thinking LEOs frick up and deserve consequences too?

That sounds an awful lot like a nuanced opinion which is not allowed.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 5:59 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:58 pm to
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Of course not. The issue is when you base your decision on LEO's fricking up from them.



Not sure why you’d direct this at me. I’m not basing jack shite on CNN’s opinion of anything.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75191 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:00 pm to
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That’s illogical. If she should be fired, the family is getting a settlement.

In this world, yes. In what should be reality, two people made pretty shitty decisions. One is dead and the other will, at the very least, lose their job and face prosecution. Call it a wash and keep rolling.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 6:01 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75191 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:01 pm to
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Not sure why you’d direct this at me. I’m not basing jack shite on CNN’s opinion of anything.


Pretty sure he was talking about the public in general.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24215 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:04 pm to
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That’s illogical. If she should be fired, the family is getting a settlement.


Why the frick is that? Everytime someone gets fired if another party is effected then they should be compensated?

The perp resisted arrest and had multiple priors, if the perp hadn’t resisted arrest he would be alive today.

I don’t get this victim mentality when the perp caused the entire sequence of events.

ETA: whatever the frick happened to the idea that government was immune from financial consequences? Or whatever it used to be? People want the government uninvolved, then want to hold the government responsible anytime their poorly paid employees frick up? It’s absurd.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 6:06 pm
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12692 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:05 pm to
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If you are in an argument, and rightfully believe the dude has a firearm in the car, and he jumps back in and continues fighting, you'll piss your pants, or run, or both.


We can’t all be heroes

Though my wet leg would probably have been a better outcome here
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:09 pm to
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Cops should be fired but should not face charges nor should the family receive a settlement.



I watched the video. The dipshit lost his life because he resisted arrest, jumped in his car and tried to drive away. During the confusion, which the victim caused, the cop grabbed the wrong weapon. shite happens when dipshits make stupid decisions. The cop should not be charged or fired. The family should not get a dime.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:10 pm to
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Is it crazy to think they’re despicable while simultaneously thinking LEOs frick up and deserve consequences too?


Not at all. It’s completely logical.

But this will be said by no one anywhere on main stream media.

It will be a bunch of talk about air fresheners, systemic racism, and defunding the police.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8118 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:11 pm to
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That’s illogical. If she should be fired, the family is getting a settlement.

Poor performance isn't gross negligence. The young man escalated the incident not the police. The cops could have done their job better but the fault of the incident lies on him.

I see what you are saying though. Unions have made it impossible to fire cops for anything less than a gargantuan frick up, which I stated earlier that I think someone getting behind the wheel in that situation is the same as grabbing a gun so I don't see him getting shot as said frick up.

Perhaps they should just be suspended or pass further training before being put out on the street again if ever.
Posted by RooBoy
Member since Apr 2021
396 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:19 pm to
OLDER FEMALE COP WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ON THE STREET. DID NOT KNOW DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HER GUN AND TAZER. ISN"T DIVERSITY HIRING GREAT ?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24215 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:19 pm to
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Poor performance isn't gross negligence. The young man escalated the incident not the police. The cops could have done their job better but the fault of the incident lies on him.


Is this even poor performance? I mean holy shite this was an escalated life or death situation, you can’t perfectly train for this no matter what anyone tells you. It’s a terrible situation for all involved, but this idea that you can resist arrest and your family prosper is ludicrous.
Posted by LSUisKING12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
323 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:28 pm to
Can anyone provide a summary of this or provide a good link?
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin to Houston
Member since Nov 2018
14798 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:32 pm to
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Imagine thinking a cop fricks up just because CNN said so.


in this case the cop fricked up because the department literally admitted she fricked up
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