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re: Officer-involved shooting in Minneapolis. 20 year old black male shot and killed. (update)

Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:46 pm to
Like you know what your talking about.......
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:46 pm to
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. She knew she fricked up.




Is anyone arguing that she didn't?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:47 pm to
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I'm guessing the stereotypical psychopath southern sheriff is a real thing and you guys like it that way.


If it saves one (innocent) life.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:47 pm to
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I mean from the full video it looked clear that his goal was to get inside the car and drive away. However, that comes with hindsight. In the heat of the moment, I agree it can definitely be hard to tell for the cops to try and tell the difference.


Thank you for the common sense
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:48 pm to
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Unreal.

You think it’s unreal to say you would fear for your life as an officer if someone fought you and then jumped into their vehicle and continued to resist?

Really?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:48 pm to
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Did you hear the cop at the end? She couldn't believe she shot him. She knew she fricked up.


And she should
Be charged/disciplined/dealt with accordingly. In the same vein, there should be no riots, not looting, nothing. This was a frick up. The officer will pay
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 3:57 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:48 pm to
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Yeah, complete idiot, but still not a death sentence.


Yep, that's what he got.

deserve? Not sure. Probably not but he's already fricked up the case from the start. You fail to assign the deceased any responsibility whatsoever.

His family will get a lot of money, people will be pissed when the cop isn't booked for murder and they'll burn their own neighborhoods down again.

Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:48 pm to
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As long as that evaluation includes the actions of the perpetrator, I'm good with that. Again, diminishing personal accountability on one side while demanding the highest standard of it on the other is a non-starter, at least for me.


The standards should be higher for the trained person with authority to take a life as compared to nervous citizen or mentally unwell person.

There should be expectations for each but much higher for one.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:49 pm to
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We aren’t talking about the people’s elbow or gates of Jericho here.



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Now you’re just playing semantics to try and obfuscate actions.



I watched it and there was no wrestling or fighting. The whole interaction was like 60 seconds from the time the cops stepped to his vehicle until the time his car was rolling away. He was out of the officer's grasp in less than 2 seconds, in the car for 4-5 giving them the Heisman while trying to get his car in gear and rolling, then shot dead.

I didn't see a single punch, push, or violent move. I saw a dumbass kid scared as shite trying to run.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:49 pm to
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I watched it and there was no wrestling or fighting.


You're a fricking clown.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:50 pm to
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The standards should be higher for the trained person with authority to take a life


If you are in an argument, and rightfully believe the dude has a firearm in the car, and he jumps back in and continues fighting, you'll piss your pants, or run, or both.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:50 pm to
You at least used to let facts drive your contrarian bullshite. Now it's mostly politics...

For shame.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:50 pm to
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He was out of the officer's grasp in less than 2 seconds, in the car


50% of this death (at least) is on the deceased.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:50 pm to
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You think it’s unreal to say you would fear for your life as an officer if someone fought you and then jumped into their vehicle and continued to resist?

Really?



No, I would not fear for my life in the least.

Frankly, I'd be more concerned about the dumb broad backing me up shooting me than the perp.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:51 pm to
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You at least used to let facts drive your contrarian bullshite. Now it's mostly politics...

For shame.




What facts am I leaving out or ignoring?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:51 pm to
Sadly , that’s how it works......
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:51 pm to
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The standards should be higher for the trained person with authority to take a life as compared to nervous citizen or mentally unwell person. There should be expectations for each but much higher for one.


Absolutely. But those standards need to come with higher training standards too.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:51 pm to
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In the same vein, there should be no roots, not looting, nothing.


110% agree (unfortunately, we'll both be disappointed)
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:51 pm to
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violent move.


That's because you're never right. You see things through commie lenses.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:52 pm to
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I didn't see a single punch, push, or violent move. I saw a dumbass kid scared as shite trying to run.


Yep.
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