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re: Off duty cop shoots would be juvenile burglar in the head
Posted on 4/19/20 at 2:01 pm to Clames
Posted on 4/19/20 at 2:01 pm to Clames
Actually, since you want to play thesaurus, you're wrong. It's actually "receiving great bodily harm."
But that didn't matter, because it's all the same for purposes of this discussion and you're just looking silly.
Here's a fact from someone who's prosecuted these before, since you discussed your theory above. : you're not getting a justifiable homicide based upon the belief that a 14 year old without a gun in your driveway was going to kill you with a punch.
But that didn't matter, because it's all the same for purposes of this discussion and you're just looking silly.
Here's a fact from someone who's prosecuted these before, since you discussed your theory above. : you're not getting a justifiable homicide based upon the belief that a 14 year old without a gun in your driveway was going to kill you with a punch.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 2:02 pm
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 2:03 pm to cwil177
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Shooting of Yoshihiro Hattori
I'm surprised they found him not guilty, tbh. Given the facts, shooting this kid sounds ridiculous, but I wasn't there so maybe I shouldn't judge the circumstances.
Not really
Posted on 4/19/20 at 2:11 pm to tLSU
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It's actually "receiving great bodily harm."
No, it isn't. You do NOT have to wait to be harmed before acting in self-defense if there is reasonable suspicion of the threat. That is the dumbest, most ignorant statement commonly asserted on this topic. What good is trying to pull a gun from its holster or having to retrieve it from some other place AFTER you are being attacked? That's how civilians and LEOs lose control of their weapons during a fight.
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Here's a fact from someone who's prosecuted these before, since you discussed your theory above. : you're not getting a justifiable homicide based upon the belief that a 14 year old without a gun in your driveway was going to kill you with a punch.
Sounds like you're the kind of shithead that SYG and Castle Doctrine laws were passed for. Good job, go jump in front of the ambulance instead of chasing it next time.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 2:14 pm to IndianInBR
Hero
Posted on 4/19/20 at 2:14 pm to Clames
No one knows what the kid did or what the cop did. Lots of scenarios. 14 yo old white kid hanging out with other kids at 3-4 am in morning. Woke cop up. Who knows what happened after that. You’ll never hear about nationally bc kid is white. I have seen people get killed going to car for work early in morning and starling car thieves and being killed.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 4/19/20 at 2:16 pm to Clames
Here clown :
That's the actual language of La. R.S. 14:20.
Are you really going to continue to argue what the words say, or are you just having some kind of debate with yourself about what they mean (which seems more likely given the irrelevant statements you keep repeating, since no one has suggested one has to wait for harm). The part here you're utterly clueless about is reasonable belief, and you seem to be the only one who doesn't see it.
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(1) When committed in self-defense by one who reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of losing his life or receiving great bodily harm and that the killing is necessary to save himself from that danger.
That's the actual language of La. R.S. 14:20.
Are you really going to continue to argue what the words say, or are you just having some kind of debate with yourself about what they mean (which seems more likely given the irrelevant statements you keep repeating, since no one has suggested one has to wait for harm). The part here you're utterly clueless about is reasonable belief, and you seem to be the only one who doesn't see it.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 4/19/20 at 2:19 pm to IndianInBR
We can just shoot people for being outside our house now? A deep throated "HEY!" from the belly would have sent them scattering, but let's start shooting. 
I feel like a cop should know better than to just start popping rounds.
I feel like a cop should know better than to just start popping rounds.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 2:20 pm to lsuwontonwrap
And it isn't self defense if the kid didn't have a weapon and wasn't in the house. Read a book.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 2:58 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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lsuwontonwrap
And it isn't self defense if the kid didn't have a weapon and wasn't in the house. Read a book.
The kid doesn’t need a weapon for “reasonable fear”
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:04 pm to choupiquesushi
I thought I read the cop was also sent to the hospital.
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That’s when the officer encountered several juveniles in the front yard of his home on Grammar Avenue.
WWL-TV reports a confrontation ensued, ending in the man opening fire and hitting the 14-year-old in the head.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:05 pm to choupiquesushi
It’s not reasonable fear when the kid doesn’t even know you’re there lol
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:09 pm to tLSU
There isn't enough evidence based on the article to argue one way or another if he was in imminent danger of losing his life or receiving great bodily harm. It would be based on the actions of the juvenile at the time of the interaction. Cop vs Juve word.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:10 pm to IndianInBR
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It was not worth mentioning.
yet you mentioned it...
interesting take...
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:19 pm to Aristo
Correct.
I was addressing his suggestion/hypothetical and stating that fear of death by a punch from a 14 year old (see the referee reference) will not be considered a reasonable basis for a justifiable homicide, that's all.
I was addressing his suggestion/hypothetical and stating that fear of death by a punch from a 14 year old (see the referee reference) will not be considered a reasonable basis for a justifiable homicide, that's all.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:21 pm to tLSU
Well, it can be if you are armed (with the weapon pointed at him or announcing you are armed) and tell him to stop or leave and he is steadily approaching you.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:32 pm to tLSU
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I was addressing his suggestion/hypothetical and stating that fear of death by a punch from a 14 year old (see the referee reference) will not be considered a reasonable basis for a justifiable homicide, that's all.
I mean, it seems reasonable to me
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:33 pm to IndianInBR
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:35 pm to John88
Group of teens just beat the hell out of nurse in NY after she recovered from Covid 19 and was on her way back to work at 10:30 at night. Almost killed the lady if not for a group of men that ran them off. Most groups of teens at 3 am are assholes.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:37 pm to IndianInBR
Here’s the justice system protecting the criminals, again.
There will probably be no negative consequences from this..
There will probably be no negative consequences from this..
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:46 pm to MintBerry Crunch
Well by that logic, since that was a random, unannounced attack of an unsuspecting person by two teens in public, it's reasonable to believe any teens you see at any time are about to kill you.
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