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re: Obesity is a choice

Posted on 8/25/24 at 9:57 am to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88862 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 9:57 am to
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but really its the getting off on moral superiority that gets them in these threads.
You must be fat
Posted by SUB
Silver Tier TD Premium
Member since Jan 2009
24796 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 9:57 am to
I could care less
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59190 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 9:59 am to
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just found it interesting because I was starting a plan to add muscle and I used a calorie counting app to get into an energy excess. During that process I found it very hard to get high enough calories of the foods I eat to gain weight/add muscle.

So I decided to do the math for how many calories are required just to maintain high weight and it was surprising.

Yes, that makes sense. If you're looking at it. What's interesting is I made a comment the other day saying it's not difficult to stay under 2000 calories a day and I got a ton of down votes. It's not difficult, it's just more work. And it's not a one size fits all thing though obviously.

It sounded like the time a poster complained the overweight people at THE GYM were bothersome because they are gross and sweaty type judgement was all.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39123 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:00 am to
Because when you socially normalize aberrant or unhealthy behavior, not only do those parties want cultural acceptance and recognition, they demand corporate and governmental policy be changed to protect themselves from the consequences of their behavior. These policies inevitably end up costing me money or freedom. So, yes, I do care that these fatties' elective behavior isn't rewarded, protected, or impact me.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98758 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:01 am to
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Why do you knuckle draggers worry about the fatties so much? Who cares if Barbra from accounting wants another Twinkie?


Short answer is it affects our insurance premiums
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:08 am to
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You must be fat




5'10" 165

But I can recognize how easy maintaining a healthy weight is for me. Dont need to count calories. Naturally hyper or at least want to be active.

My family is the same. Why would I feel high and mighty about something that takes me way less effort than other people?
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
7006 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:08 am to
It's honestly shocking to me that there aren't even more fatties. Fat food is so easy to access.

Soft drinks
Chips
Processed foods
Fast food
Etc
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:09 am to
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Fatties are lazy and completely incapable of taking personal responsibility


This is it. My wife needs to lose weight, and she knows she needs to, she wants to, but she won't exercise or eat less, and she always has an excuse why. I kinda wish she would've never stopped smoking.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9789 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:15 am to
Someone only eating chicken, eggs, and sweet potatoes is going to be lacking quite a bit of nutrients.

Miltivitamins can only supply so much.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9789 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:17 am to
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My family is the same. Why would I feel high and mighty about something that takes me way less effort than other people?


Thanks for saying this. I lost a ton of weight, but it was extremely difficult with how distorted my relationship with food was. One of my saving graces is that all I had to was dial back my diet a bit because how physically active I am. When I get bored I’ll go for a 3-5 mile run just to knock out some cobwebs and get some endorphins. It’s fun for me. There’s no discipline involved there. Some of my family is the opposite. Same upbringing with food distortion but no inclination to get moving. I can’t judge them.
This post was edited on 8/25/24 at 10:18 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22708 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:20 am to
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Why do you care that he cares?


It's ***ing message board. People post, people reply cowboy.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46691 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:21 am to
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Someone only eating chicken, eggs, and sweet potatoes is going to be lacking quite a bit of nutrients.
im no nutritionist but poultry, potatoes (or other starch) and eggs have been supporting human populations for thousands of years. Add green veg to that and you’re good to go
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9789 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:22 am to
Women are more susceptible to anemia. You need more iron than that. I’m not saying that you can’t clean up diet by eliminating a ton of food, but OP stated matter of factly that that is all someone would need to do.

The truth is it’s not that simple.
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
890 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:25 am to
I mean we let corporations pump all kind of artificial flavors and chemicals into our food and now we are crying about obesity? The unhealthy and processed food is way cheaper than the healthy stuff as well.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15829 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:26 am to
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When I get bored I’ll go for a 3-5 mile run just to knock out some cobwebs and get some endorphins



Same here. Running every morning is part of getting dressed. Even if it’s something as simple as 3 miles. It’s the first thing I do out of bed. I feel naked during the day if for some reason it’s missed. Hitting the gym in the afternoons or at lunch is just passing time for the most part and moving some weight around.

When I feel my pants are getting a little snug, I just curve back my diet a bit and it’s easily fixable.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17661 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:28 am to
Besides having some sort of a disease I’m not sure how anyone downvoted this.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8433 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:37 am to
Why not focus on helping people like this make better choices? This critical and condescending attitude only makes people resentful and unlikely to change.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30034 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:38 am to
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I just found it interesting because I was starting a plan to add muscle and I used a calorie counting app to get into an energy excess. During that process I found it very hard to get high enough calories of the foods I eat to gain weight/add muscle.

So I decided to do the math for how many calories are required just to maintain high weight and it was surprising.


The issue is you were approaching it from the eating healthy POV. The healthier you eat the more volume you generally have to take in for a target calorie count. My daily intake is in the 3800-3900 calorie per day range, some days I just don't want to eat that much especially the bulk of low calorie veggies and fruit to cover my micros. That is really only because I am trying to eat relatively healthy. For example, I drink about 150 ounces of liquid a day all of it very low or no calorie the majority being water. The same volume of Coke would give me 1750 calories without any more volume. If I ate the same weight of cake, typical pizza or fried crap vs baked chicken breast that would be another huge bump in calories for the same amount of chewing and swallowing.

Large calorie counts are incredibly easy to ingest if you eat like crap, damn near work if you don't.

BTW I really like cake and eat cake but when I eat it I recognize there is a cost in X amount of time at Y level of intensity. Being OCD as I am I have a food cheat bank account I keep funded and my food cheats are always paid for in "cash" never credit.
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
612 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:39 am to
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Why not focus on helping people like this make better choices? This critical and condescending attitude only makes people resentful and unlikely to change.


How is it condescending? You just sound soft.


It is meant to help people. If you just eat the right food you can lose weight and not feel hungry.

You just have to give up the “pleasure of eating”. It’s a dopamine problem.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8433 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:49 am to
Right but that’s not what your OP said at all. Honestly, the fat-positive and anti-fat people are really just 2 sides of the same coin.
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