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re: Obesity is a choice
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:30 pm to Bob Sacamano 89
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:30 pm to Bob Sacamano 89
Food became just another drug to sell to the public.
If the food industry could sell crack cocaine or meth; they would.
People need to be educated that they are turning themselves and their families into junkies by buying all this processed garbage.
Unfortunately, people tend to take the path of least resistance, and it's much easier to buy pre-packaged - ready to eat "food" like fast food or something to throw in the microwave.
At some point you'd hope that the FDA would intervene, but our government agencies stopped giving a shite about the public a long time ago.
If the food industry could sell crack cocaine or meth; they would.
People need to be educated that they are turning themselves and their families into junkies by buying all this processed garbage.
Unfortunately, people tend to take the path of least resistance, and it's much easier to buy pre-packaged - ready to eat "food" like fast food or something to throw in the microwave.
At some point you'd hope that the FDA would intervene, but our government agencies stopped giving a shite about the public a long time ago.
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Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:32 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:Around July 4th someone on here posted a picture from the 80's, "Cruising the Chattahoochee" with folks on homemade rafts/pontoons floated down the river partying like crazy.
You can look at old school yearbooks. Everybody is skinny except for the one fat kid, and he's just a little bit husky by today's standards.
No fatties, no girls with fake tits, no bleached blondes, no lip injections or fake lashes, fingernails, etc. Everyone was all natural and they looked fit and fine as wine.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:43 pm to Knuckle Checker
"A sick child is the best thing for the pharmaceutical industry. When American children or adults are sick with chronic condition, they're put on medication for their entire life." RFK Jr.
74% of Americans are now overweight or obese and we spend the most on healthcare than any country on Earth but rank about 79th in health outcomes. Obesity isn't a choice when we have the food and pharmaceutical industry controlling what we consume.
74% of Americans are now overweight or obese and we spend the most on healthcare than any country on Earth but rank about 79th in health outcomes. Obesity isn't a choice when we have the food and pharmaceutical industry controlling what we consume.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 3:12 pm to onepiecemayne
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Obesity isn't a choice when we have the food and pharmaceutical industry controlling what we consume.
I think the word "controlling" is wrong here. We still have the option to eat healthy food. Even Dollar General has a few healthier options.
They don't control what we consume, but they heavily influence our decisions. Especially for the less educated and poorer people of the country. They just eat what is easy and tastes good....
I don't know what the answer is. Like someone said earlier, the food being pushed is engineered to taste so good eating it is like doing drugs for a lot of people. "Hyper-palatable" is the word I've seen used.
Try and educate as many people as possible to the dangers of living solely off of this food and make better choices....
Posted on 8/27/24 at 3:33 pm to Boondock Saint
quote:Honestly, the obese people with comorbidities where the highest risk individuals for covid. If that alone didn't grab their attention and force them to make serious lifestyle changes, I don't know if anything will work.
Try and educate as many people as possible to the dangers of living solely off of this food and make better choices....
During the covid shutdown, I realized I needed to step up my cardio & activity level, so I shed 15 pounds in 3 months. I've maintained my normal weight and stuck with my cardio regime. Covid should've scared a lot of people into making permanent changes to become healthier.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 3:58 pm to Knuckle Checker
Are you ASSuming that is why all obese people are obese or are you limiting your comments to this specific scenario?
Posted on 8/27/24 at 3:59 pm to TigerChick2018
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:51 pm to PikesPeak
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Fatties are lazy and completely incapable of taking personal responsibility and people should be disgusted in their presence
frick off. And I’m not a fatty. I’ve stayed fairly skinny most of my life despite more or less eating like shite and eating when I want to eat. If you don’t think there is a serious genetic component, I don’t know what to tell you.
Also, finding disgust in other humans is how we ultimately feel self righteousness marching women and children off to gas chambers. It’s pretty much a straight line from disgust to that. If you are disgusted by them, no need to see them as human. This is how we (as humans) get to the darkest places. You don’t disgust me, btw.’I just think you are a flawed human like myself. And frick off.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 12:15 am to pelicanpride
quote:There is a genetic component for a minority but much of what people blame on genetics ("my whole family is overweight") is actually a combination of a family history of unhealthy recipes (grandma's biscuits and gravy) and learned eating behaviors that are instilled at an early age. As supporting evidence, I offer the example of the human race prior to 50 years ago. Genetics have historically played a minor role in mankind's ability to horde calories in the form of body fat.
If you don’t think there is a serious genetic component, I don’t know what to tell you.
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Also, finding disgust in other humans is how we ultimately feel self righteousness marching women and children off to gas chambers. It’s pretty much a straight line from disgust to that.
FFS, did you just Godwin Law a fatty thread?
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 1:11 am
Posted on 8/28/24 at 12:29 am to YNWA
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I'd say most obesity can be linked to depression. Depression is not a choice.
Exactly this.
People in here are pretending that just because they aren't fat they don't have plenty of issues to focus on. If you want the world to be a better place, look inward. There is plenty about you that needs work. Focus on yourself instead of others.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:49 am to Knuckle Checker
“Obesity is a choice”
Wrong. It can be, but science, data, and facts prove it is not a choice in the vast majority of cases. Inadequate GLP-1 levels is not a choice. Access to care is not a choice. Access to whole foods is not a choice(typically). There are a lot of compounding factors. The main driver is a lack of GLP-1. That is not an opinion.
Statements like “Obesity is a choice” just show how uneducated and simple minded you are. Be better than that. It’s 2024.
Personal accountability does not(and should never) have to be lost when conceding to the fact that obesity is not a choice for the vast majority.
The approach you are taking actually makes it harder to fight obesity. You are part of the problem with mindsets and words like this. Also not an opinion.
Be better.
Wrong. It can be, but science, data, and facts prove it is not a choice in the vast majority of cases. Inadequate GLP-1 levels is not a choice. Access to care is not a choice. Access to whole foods is not a choice(typically). There are a lot of compounding factors. The main driver is a lack of GLP-1. That is not an opinion.
Statements like “Obesity is a choice” just show how uneducated and simple minded you are. Be better than that. It’s 2024.
Personal accountability does not(and should never) have to be lost when conceding to the fact that obesity is not a choice for the vast majority.
The approach you are taking actually makes it harder to fight obesity. You are part of the problem with mindsets and words like this. Also not an opinion.
Be better.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:02 am to yellowfin
300 lb secretary isn’t eating chicken breast and sweet potatoes exactly
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:21 am to Knuckle Checker
quote:
Obesity is a choice
Free will is an illusion
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:34 am to BawtHouse
I kind of agree. The issue is that people choose what is cheap and convenient. The food industry makes a lot of money serving slop to people. This has created a situation wherein people are headed to ruin because they have poor choices in front of them and changing for the better becomes harder and harder as the days go by and the metabolic dysfunction stacks against them.
It's like, I doubt someone wakes up one day and says, "I'm going to become an alcoholic." Yes, you could argue that they chose to become an alcoholic, but I doubt that they would make that same choice if they could do it all over again.
Same with emphysema or cancer and cigarettes. I doubt someone says, "I want to be connected to oxygen, or have parts of my body removed." They just get started on a bad path and it's hard to reverse course once the addiction takes hold.
The issue with the food industry is that people need to eat, and these corporations know how to manipulate that. They know they have the perfect drug. It's completely legal to poison the metabolism of every human being in the USA in perpetuity for profits. Then, sell them the medicine and medical interventions to treat the diseases that they've created. It's diabolical and short of serious regulation, it won't change.
It's like, I doubt someone wakes up one day and says, "I'm going to become an alcoholic." Yes, you could argue that they chose to become an alcoholic, but I doubt that they would make that same choice if they could do it all over again.
Same with emphysema or cancer and cigarettes. I doubt someone says, "I want to be connected to oxygen, or have parts of my body removed." They just get started on a bad path and it's hard to reverse course once the addiction takes hold.
The issue with the food industry is that people need to eat, and these corporations know how to manipulate that. They know they have the perfect drug. It's completely legal to poison the metabolism of every human being in the USA in perpetuity for profits. Then, sell them the medicine and medical interventions to treat the diseases that they've created. It's diabolical and short of serious regulation, it won't change.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 7:38 am
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:06 am to PikesPeak
I don't care about the fatties unless they are encroaching into my seat (stadium, Airplane). I have no issue telling them that them lounging into my area is a problem.
I had a little old lady save me on a Flight in 2016 it was 2 seats per side there was a 400+ lady in a business class seat that's arm was all up I'm my seat. She saw the disgust on my face walking to my seat and she was sitting on the othe side of the aisle and said " oh I have the wrong seat" I look at her crazy she stood up and told me to swap with her. It was the nicest thing a stranger has ever done. I offered to buy her drinks she said no. Big shout out to Mrs Kathy from Clearlake if you are out there still thank you.
I had a little old lady save me on a Flight in 2016 it was 2 seats per side there was a 400+ lady in a business class seat that's arm was all up I'm my seat. She saw the disgust on my face walking to my seat and she was sitting on the othe side of the aisle and said " oh I have the wrong seat" I look at her crazy she stood up and told me to swap with her. It was the nicest thing a stranger has ever done. I offered to buy her drinks she said no. Big shout out to Mrs Kathy from Clearlake if you are out there still thank you.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:11 am to Harrytasker
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Millions of Americans could probably lose 50 lbs or more simply cutting out soft drinks and reserving drinking alcohol for the weekends.
I drank heavy until a little more than 10 years ago, whiskey. I quit soft drinks around 11-12 years ago. I was able to notice a difference after quitting soft drinks, but quitting alcohol was pretty amazing difference in excess weight. I thought beer belly back then was only from beer, thought whiskey wouldn't be as bad, but it is on the belly.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:16 am to Mushroom1968
my wife gained close to 200 pounds since we first met. she shot up 25-30 times every time she took a covid booster shot. we eat quite clean, im confident we both eat cleaner than 80% of america. her blood pressure and blood sugar are both perfect we both check every morning cause i'm diabetic .
we went to the doctor back in 2019. they told her that she doesn't have anything, nothing is wrong with her and that she just needs to lose weight. She thought she had PCOS. She doesn't.
she also is experiencing hair loss / thinning as well.
we've tried keto, e2m, fasting. she eats about 1800 cals a day on avg. weight will not budge.
i talked her into taking monjaro. finally, starting to see some results. however , when we went and they did blood work on her, the new doctor said that her thyroid numbers were out of wack, and to make a very long story short, her numbers were out of wack in 2019, the doctor just didn't take her seriously because she was overweight, they sent her to a specialist and she has Lupus. She probably had it this entire time undiasnosed.
They gave us medicaiton for it, and that with the monjaro and we are finally starting to get things under control.
It breaks my heart everyone that looks at my wife and assumes she overseats. she tires so hard. we just got home from the gym.
we went to the doctor back in 2019. they told her that she doesn't have anything, nothing is wrong with her and that she just needs to lose weight. She thought she had PCOS. She doesn't.
she also is experiencing hair loss / thinning as well.
we've tried keto, e2m, fasting. she eats about 1800 cals a day on avg. weight will not budge.
i talked her into taking monjaro. finally, starting to see some results. however , when we went and they did blood work on her, the new doctor said that her thyroid numbers were out of wack, and to make a very long story short, her numbers were out of wack in 2019, the doctor just didn't take her seriously because she was overweight, they sent her to a specialist and she has Lupus. She probably had it this entire time undiasnosed.
They gave us medicaiton for it, and that with the monjaro and we are finally starting to get things under control.
It breaks my heart everyone that looks at my wife and assumes she overseats. she tires so hard. we just got home from the gym.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:58 am to vodka
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she eats about 1800 cals a day on avg. weight will not budge.
1800 calories is about what the average woman burns in a day. Consuming 1800 calories will result, as you’ve seen, in the weight “not budging”. If she were still gaining weight, that would be surprising. Her not losing weight while consuming 1800 calories a day isn’t surprising at all. It required more than 1800 calories per day to put on the weight, and it’s going to take significantly fewer than 1800 calories in a day to shed the weight now that it’s on.
And this isn’t coming from a place of judgment. I have no issue with people making their own decisions. Just wanted to point out the math issue
Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:55 am to vodka
quote:Well, yeah. As someone already stated above, 1800 calories is maintenance level, or even a little more, for most women. To lose weight she needs to create a calorie deficit. Try working down to 14-1300 calories.
she eats about 1800 cals a day on avg. weight will not budge.
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