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re: O-T aviators, recommend me a basic airplane
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:32 pm to TrueTiger
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:32 pm to TrueTiger
I have a 1974 Piper Cherokee PA-28-140/160. It's perfect for training, low fuel gph, very stable, and I love it. I would suggest that if you go this route, you look for a 140 w the 160hp upgrade.
Both are great training planes, have dependable reputations, cheap maintenance (common parts, etc), comparable useful load, and both will be easy to sell when you are ready to upgrade.
The only big issue I've noticed is that (in my opinion) the 172's tend to cost a little more up front for comparable models.
Also be sure that what you purchase has a solid IFR platform in case you continue your training.
TL/DR: both are good options.
Both are great training planes, have dependable reputations, cheap maintenance (common parts, etc), comparable useful load, and both will be easy to sell when you are ready to upgrade.
The only big issue I've noticed is that (in my opinion) the 172's tend to cost a little more up front for comparable models.
Also be sure that what you purchase has a solid IFR platform in case you continue your training.
TL/DR: both are good options.
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:33 pm to TrueTiger
Seems like it would be easier to drive. Don't flight logs have to be filed with the faa? Lot harder to find a Honda Accord
Just get some large peanut butter containers from Costco
Just get some large peanut butter containers from Costco
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:33 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
172s are as easy to fly as you can get. Very forgiving airplane.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:41 pm to SeasonOfSam
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I have a 1974 Piper Cherokee PA-28-140/160. It's perfect for training, low fuel gph, very stable, and I love it. I would suggest that if you go this route, you look for a 140 w the 160hp upgrade.
I'm kinda partial to the Cherokee; my grandfather had one.
I know many 172/182 fans and there is merit to their claims.
My research on this is that this was a much debated high-wing vs. low-wing debate back in the 1960s.
I guess it still is.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:45 pm to TrueTiger
What do planes like that cost?
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:47 pm to BottomlandBrew
1960s and early 70s about $20k to $30k.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:47 pm to BottomlandBrew
about three fiddy for a good one
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:47 pm to TrueTiger
quote:Theyre both good airplanes and are both easy to fly.
I know many 172/182 fans and there is merit to their claims.
My research on this is that this was a much debated high-wing vs. low-wing debate back in the 1960s.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:49 pm to DevilDogTiger
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MO20, SR22, or COL3 ETA the sirus can be equipped with a parachute if you or the plane fricks up
The Cirrus planes are all equipped with the parachute, it is not a option. A wing design that makes spin recovery difficult with normal control inputs mandated the parachute system to enable certification for general aviation. Cirrus also for many years had the worst fatality record of all single engine prop planes, the parachute is not the failsafe system it appears to be.
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:53 pm to EA6B
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:53 pm to TrueTiger
You can't go wrong with either for a starter. I have a couple hundred hours in both. Did my private in a 172, IFR and non-complex part of the commercial ratings in the piper. Personally, I feel like the 172 is a better handling aircraft but the Cherokee is more forgiving in maneuvers, especially stalls and slow flight.
If you're commuting a lot and have the cash, you're going to want to upgrade pretty quick IMO since these birds aren't the fastest. Single engine piston wise it's hard to beat a good bonanza A36 or Cirrus SR 22 for fuel/speed
If you're commuting a lot and have the cash, you're going to want to upgrade pretty quick IMO since these birds aren't the fastest. Single engine piston wise it's hard to beat a good bonanza A36 or Cirrus SR 22 for fuel/speed
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:58 pm to TrueTiger
The cherokee is a very forgiving and reliable plane. I like the low wing over the high wing as it doesnt feel as clostrophobic in the cabin. I also dont like the plunger throttle and fuel mixture on the 172s.
Theyre relatively inexpensive, burn about 10 gal per hr, and parts are easy to find.
The C172 and Cherokee are both great entry planes, but I prefer the Cherokee.
Theyre relatively inexpensive, burn about 10 gal per hr, and parts are easy to find.
The C172 and Cherokee are both great entry planes, but I prefer the Cherokee.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:59 pm to TrueTiger
Piper IMO is more fun to fly, the Cessna is more comfortable. Having everyone climb through that one wing door sucks.
I like the look though. I really wanted a Piper cherokee 6. But I couldn't afford continuing my pilots license past PP.
So buying a plane is a pipe dream.
Though I rode in a Grumman Tiger and thought that was a great ride and I loved the canopy, it was like a fighter jet, lol.
Basic plane, you can get an old Cherokee 140 for cheap. I would go towards the cherokee, if you plan on having four people, the 172.
I like the look though. I really wanted a Piper cherokee 6. But I couldn't afford continuing my pilots license past PP.
So buying a plane is a pipe dream.
Though I rode in a Grumman Tiger and thought that was a great ride and I loved the canopy, it was like a fighter jet, lol.
Basic plane, you can get an old Cherokee 140 for cheap. I would go towards the cherokee, if you plan on having four people, the 172.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:02 pm to Napoleon
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Having everyone climb through that one wing door sucks.
During PP training in the 172, my instructor showed me how to use the doors for lateral control if the rudder cable snapped. Can't do that in a Piper
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:03 pm to Winston Cup
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Don't flight logs have to be filed with the faa? Lot harder to find a Honda Accord
No and you don't have to file a flight plane when you fly VFR.
If you want an instrument approach and to have flight following from control, then you file a plan.
I just got used to VFR with plan, because every flight I did seemed to cross Bravo airspace and originated in Delta, just easier getting directions from someone else to keep me away from others.
I love hearing "(Airline call sign) hold for Cessna Skyhawk doing a touch and go"
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:06 pm to BottomlandBrew
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What do planes like that cost?
A new Cessna is like $400k for a Skyhawk 172.
You can get a nice used one from the Reagan era for $30k, one from the Johnson era for about $12k.
Prices a little less for Pipers. I have seen sub $10k pipers, that were in annual.
Planes are inspected annually for everything. top to bottom. Older ones are usually kept up well enough to keep on going.
Not much is gained with newer ones, as they both have similar flight controls, pre GPS era. You can add GPS. Get to learn VOR.
What bugs me the most about owning a small plane, is you just can't do what you want. Every add on has to pass inspection.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:07 pm to TrueTiger
M2
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:25 pm to Koach K
Thanks.
It's business related so any chance for Uncle Sam to cover parts of it is welcome.
It's business related so any chance for Uncle Sam to cover parts of it is welcome.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:28 pm to TrueTiger
Do you want a high wing or a low wing?
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