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re: NYU Professor AI proofs his assignments, students lose their minds
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:41 am to dagrippa
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:41 am to dagrippa
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how do you "AI proof" an assignment? This sounds like more made up or exaggerated bullshite for clicks.
You don't understand how you could modify an assignment so that you have to apply critical thinking skills instead of using an automated system for recall of data?
And we have some teachers/professors here on the OT that have expressed that AI is a problem in classrooms. It's a widespread problem in its current implementation in the classroom.
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:48 am to BluegrassBelle
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You don't understand how you could modify an assignment so that you have to apply critical thinking skills instead of using an automated system for recall of data?
We didn't have AI when I was in college and I had plenty of assignments that required critical thinking skills.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:51 pm to 1BamaRTR
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This next generation is cooked
A lot of these kids are already struggling to read and understand things properly since they mostly consumed "brain rot" content as young children
Yes, they are. But seriously, what do we expect? I can speak for hours about how awful modern education is and its reliance on technology. It started with online textbooks to save money, but it has now morphed into this cesspool of everything being online. Homework, classwork, tests are all given online and graded online.
The teacher merely assigns the due date. Nothing is returned. There is no "red ink". No feedback of where and how a student made a mistake so the same mistakes occur over and over again. A math teacher cannot tell if a student understands the concepts or made careless errors because online math prioritizes the right answer and not the right process.
Education has literally turned into a Pink Floyd song, yet we are wondering why students usse AI to complete their assigments?
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:52 pm to BluegrassBelle
There are lots of AI apps and programs in education now that will write tests and other material for you. I refuse to use them.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:22 pm to jdd48
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Yea that's what I was afraid of with this newfangled AI. People are going to get reliant on it and not be able to perform their jobs without it
That's fine, because in the end their jobs aren't going to exist anyway.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
It was called plagiarism/cheating when I was in school.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:31 pm to BluegrassBelle
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You could utilize more oral assignments/presentations and ask questions in real time. Utilize assignments that require you to analyze and synthesize instead of just straight up recall. Break larger assignments into sections/parts where they have to show scaling of knowledge (think outline, first drafts, final drafts, etc). Use assignments that require multiple sources, current events, personalization. Use peer-review.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:34 pm to BluegrassBelle
In college at LSU, we had an engineering professor who taught machine design and no calculators were allowed.
The problems were always presented with simple variables or values in increments of 5 or 10 so you could do the math simply on paper by hand and arrive at answer.
I learned a lot in that class and retained more than in many other classes.
The problems were always presented with simple variables or values in increments of 5 or 10 so you could do the math simply on paper by hand and arrive at answer.
I learned a lot in that class and retained more than in many other classes.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:42 pm to bad93ex
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TNG episode where they visit a civilization that possesses advanced technology but no one understands the science behind it. Can't think of the episode name
Idiocracy
Posted on 5/14/25 at 2:20 pm to BluegrassBelle
It's a long article so I just asked Grok to summarize it for me.
Joking, I actually read it. I largely agree with it. There's not much schooling in school if the need to critically think is just removed. At the same time though, LLMs aren't going anywhere. People need to learn how to use them appropriately and ethically.
It didn't state how the teacher was phrasing his assignments to LLM-proof them. I'm most curious about that.
Joking, I actually read it. I largely agree with it. There's not much schooling in school if the need to critically think is just removed. At the same time though, LLMs aren't going anywhere. People need to learn how to use them appropriately and ethically.
It didn't state how the teacher was phrasing his assignments to LLM-proof them. I'm most curious about that.
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