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re: NYPD roughs up wrong black man

Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:03 am to
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:03 am to
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I am referring to the fact that I wonder if a well dressed white male would get tackled to the ground and held down by several officers in the same situation...

Once again, we are talking about credit card fraud, not a man brandishing a weapon.


Honestly...not a terrible question.

This would be like hearing about a guy tackling some guy on the street accused of embezzlement.

Unless someone is willing to simply say the guy doing the tackling does this to all suspects he apprehends, regardless of threat or accusation, I'd sure love to know the thought process as to why questioning a man in regards to credit card fraud required a form tackle...

And...as always...this ought to matter to EVERYONE, unless you actually do think his race played a factor and therefore you don't have to worry about this sort of thing. I don't want some asshat LEO tackling me in the street because someone misidentified me for fricking credit card fraud...do you?
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21864 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:04 am to
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If we, as a society behaved more responsibly, it would be reflected in police behavior.



Oh shut the frick up
This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 8:05 am
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:05 am to
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If we, as a society behaved more responsibly, it would be reflected in police behavior.


Yea let's all act like catholic little boys so the police will treat society better.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83594 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:05 am to
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but I am sure as heck struggling to come up with another plausible explanation
Cops are horrible.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:06 am to
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I'm sure that he resisted considering the cops didn't identify themselves until after he was tackled leading them to rough him up.


Maybe he resisted, maybe not. Maybe the cops were idiots who didn't feel like identifying themselves upon approach.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15143 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:06 am to
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For those that don't know, James Blake graduated from Harvard.


AND HE'S BLACK!!! Wouldn't be that big of a deal if race wasn't brought at least twice already in this article.

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:08 am to
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Wouldn't be that big of a deal if race wasn't brought at least twice already in this article.


it's relevant in this scenario, or are you that dense to not recognize it?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:08 am to
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This kind of behavior is uncalled


Good to hear...

quote:

but


Uh-oh...

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is a product of our society.


Wait...what?

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If we, as a society behaved more responsibly, it would be reflected in police behavior.


So...the fact that police in many cases go way overboard is not so much a reflection of their poor behavior, but a byproduct of society's lack of respecting their authority? If it wasn't so early, this reads A LOT like Radical Muslims suggesting their behavior is the fault of the west's prior behavior and not a reflection of their own bad actions. To put another way...a giant fricking excuses to behave badly.

But...I might just not have had enough coffee yet...
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8628 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Wouldn't be that big of a deal if race wasn't brought at least twice already in this article.


It would to me. Once again, I find this type of behavior appalling, period.

Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11303 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:10 am to
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Of course nothing will happen to them.


This is part of the reason why we keep reading these stories.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83953 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:10 am to
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This kind of behavior is uncalled for but is a product of our society. If we, as a society behaved more responsibly, it would be reflected in police behavior.


Oh my God
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83594 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:11 am to
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how the frick is it dishonest? it's very plausible and could definitely be argued in a scenario such as this. i know you won't admit it or recognize it but there are black people who get fricked over by white law enforcement officers every day because of their skin color.
It's as dishonest as saying "he was a black guy so he could be dangerous or have a weapon." The cops could be racists. Nobody would deny that. But anybody could be a racist. Why is that the leading take for this story? How is cops being horrific at doing their job not the takeaway here?
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15143 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:12 am to
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it's relevant in this scenario, or are you that dense to not recognize it?


Officer: Sir you're under arrest.
Suspect: I'm black
Officer: Oh well then, you are guilty
Suspect: I graduated from Harvard
Officer: Oh, well then, you are free to go.

Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8628 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:14 am to
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How is cops being horrific at doing their job not the takeaway here?



That is my main take away here. While I can recognize there may be a racial element in play here, the fact of the matter is that the cops did a horrible job period and that incidents like this are seemingly becoming more and more common.

Some people just have a hard time processing more than one thing at a time.



Posted by TheSassyOne
Member since May 2014
132 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:16 am to
Wow, any excuse is okay eh? They didn't know it was Blake so it's illogical that the cops felt they just had to assault him because he's a "super mythical Negro" w/ super strength/powers.

I'm beyond tired of this fallacy.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
72616 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:16 am to
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...the fact that police in many cases go way overboard is not so much a reflection of their poor behavior


Well the way you phrased THIS, OF COURSE, they are wrong. IF they go "way overboard", then it IS THEIR bad behavior.

quote:

this reads A LOT like Radical Muslims suggesting their behavior is the fault of the west's prior behavior and not a reflection of their own bad actions.


A horrible analogy. Look, the police and their actions are just a reflection of us. If you think anything different, you need a lot more than coffee.
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7441 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:18 am to
bullshite
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79326 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:18 am to
I'm guessing cops rough up the wrong white guys/girls too.

Kudos to Blake for seemingly not trying to inflame the situation after the fact.

This sounds like incompetence mixed with too much use of force more so than racial animosity.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28336 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:19 am to
NYPD do what dey want...



They are an embarrassment, even worse than NOPD.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9948 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:19 am to
quote:

misidentified by a witness

Well this why it happened. " misidentified by
a witness" has absolutely nothing to do with race.
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