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re: NYC Health Chair is furious that numbers never approached the projections

Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:46 pm to
Orange man bad
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:49 pm to
Only question I have about that is it’s only the last data point that is atypical from the trend, from the week of March 8th, and two weeks before the money flood gate.

What happened after?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Massive undercount because of dying at home."


He sounds like an idiot.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69745 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:51 pm to
I’m not sure why anyone is surprised that the party that consistently said they would do anything to get Trump out of office is acting like this. The curve is flattening quickly and this will end up about on par with the common flu.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26751 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:52 pm to
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Deaths? Massive undercount because of dying at home.


So if you die at home it doesn't count?
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:53 pm to
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My republican wacko friends want society to collapse so they can use their guns to kill their neighbors. My libtard wacko friends want this to be the start of a socialist america.



you need better friends
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
Wherever I’m needed
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:54 pm to
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Deaths? Massive undercount because of dying at home


...... and we haven’t found the bodies yet?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:54 pm to
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So if you die at home it doesn't count?


It's undeniable that these people are upset that the numbers aren't higher.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53610 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:56 pm to
It’s not a one to one comparison, but the most recent corona vs flu medial burden assessment from the CDC doesn’t show as dramátic of a drop.

LINK

It does show that hospital visits that ended up being diagnosed with the flu almost followed the trend.

Might it simply be that flu was a diagnosis of convienance previously for any moderate to severe upper respiratory infection and this situation is making them take a closer look at anyone with a fever over 100, a cough, and a sore throat (previously established metrics for calling something an ILI)
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:56 pm to
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So if you die at home it doesn't count?


Many countries were, at least initially, only counting deaths that occurred in hospitals.


Idk about this melt, but I wouldn't exactly be shocked if they haven't gotten around go testing people who croaked at home.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 1:16 pm to
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if it's going to happen in the US, it will be NYC

Or Cali. Are they even testing yet in Cali?
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9291 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 1:21 pm to
NY is way worse than Cali bc of the population density and reliance on public transit.

Once you enact basic social distancing measures and big event cancellation, it seems that the biggest correlation to spread is people living on top of each other and being forced to use public transit.

NYC is the worst place in America for that sort of spread
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 1:24 pm to
The virus gives these people a sense of self righteousness, they have purpose, they’re on a crusade.

I suspect the power is also intoxicating.

We need to get these people as far away from the economy as possible.
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7087 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 1:32 pm to
This is what I have been saying for weeks. Oct, Nov and Dec deaths from Covid where coded to Phenomena. It’s been here and around the world far before January.
Posted by SadSouthernBuck
Las Vegas
Member since Dec 2007
748 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 1:39 pm to
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He warns of a "second wave" if we let our guard down

So did Dr. Brix in the same article.
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"What's really important is that people don't turn these early signs of hope into releasing from the 30 days to stop the spread - it's really critical," said Deborah Birx, the coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, referring to guidelines aimed at reducing the spread of the virus.

"If people start going out again and socially interacting, we could see a really acute second wave," Birx added.
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