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re: NYC Charges black homeless man for defecating on LGBTQ flag and wiping with another

Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:53 am to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:53 am to
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Per capita, black people are charged with hate crimes at a higher rate than white people.

What's the conviction rate?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:54 am to
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But it's perfectly fine to use an American flag, huh? What an upside down clown world we're living in!




Yours or someone else's? If the latter did you have their permission to use it for that purpose? Or did you steal it like this man did and proceed to use it in a manner which evidently was defined as a hate crime by the charging officer? If you want to shite on your flag and wipe your arse with a second flag which belongs to you I would imagine only a idiot would take issue with your doing so...what is am upside down clown world is a world where someone steals someone property and, depending on how it is used that theft is either viewed as wrong or OK. That is some sick, twisted shite.
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
3051 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:56 am to
Well, a lot of LGBTQ is centered on dude's buttholes so, your welcome
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
20074 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:57 am to
do you go around using chatgpt to melt about trannies in every thread or are you actually in shambles?

I think you might be on meth
Posted by fr33manator
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:58 am to
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Nothing inconvenient about it… it’s been happening to us… of course most Black American males and White American males probably have the same views about most of this crazy shite going on… “They-them” or whoever the hell it is knows this… none of us will be spared… this movement is spear headed by the Ultra gay and silly bad-intention educated women



Which is why they have to divide us
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:58 am to
Trannies are his thing. He's in every one posting hundreds of excuses why you have to believe like he does.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130231 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:02 am to
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Only because some of the rhetoric and views held by SOME of the people on the other side… We could never stand with…



What, specifically?

Because have you seen what the Ds have done?


Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137016 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:04 am to
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Yours or someone else's? If the latter did you have their permission to use it for that purpose? Or did you steal it like this man did and proceed to use it in a manner which evidently was defined as a hate crime by the charging officer? If you want to shite on your flag and wipe your arse with a second flag which belongs to you I would imagine only a idiot would take issue with your doing so...what is am upside down clown world is a world where someone steals someone property and, depending on how it is used that theft is either viewed as wrong or OK. That is some sick, twisted shite.



We just want to be treated like everyone else except different in every possible way.
Posted by tss22h8
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:05 am to
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Now that's one innocent man I can get behind!
Wait until he finishes his dump before you do that.


Not guilty.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:06 am to
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I have yet to understand how hate, which is repulsive, is not protected by the first amendment.

If a crime is committed, charge the person and go to court.

But hate is a crime?


I would posit there is an element of hate in all crimes...hard to imagine killing someone without choosing "a victim because of some characteristic — for example, race, ethnicity, or religion — and provide evidence that hate prompted them to commit the crime" (US Department of Justice). Note that race, ethnicity and religion are examples and is not an all all inclusive list. Those on the left supported the idea of hate crimes as a way to make crimes defined as that above more serious than run of the mill crimes of similar nature and those on the law and order right went along with it because it gives the state more power over the individual. In my opinion hate crime legislation is bad legislation and always has been...but it panders to the extremes on the left and the right.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:10 am to
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Per capita, black people are charged with hate crimes at a higher rate than white people.

Something I've pointed out and linked probably more than a dozen times on here, it makes people really mad every time.




Of course they are...and the reason is abundantly clear why they are...because it is up to police and prosecutors to define a hate versus common crime of similar nature and both groups are over represented by extremely conservative individuals...any crime committed by a black person in this country is apt to be viewed more seriously than the same crime committed by a black person in vast reaches if not all of the nation.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:11 am to








Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11307 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:11 am to
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Put a crucifix in a bottle of piss...Art
Use a rainbow flag for hygiene ..hate crime

But the interesting conundrum here is. He technically "stole" the flags which is what he should be charged with but given the low cost vs min amount standard to be arrested in this liberal utopia . He wouldn't be charged with stealing. So is he being charged for freedom of expression?



He also trespassed and apparently harassed someone while stealing the flag...which is indeed what he was charged with. Burglary, trespassing and harrassment.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:12 am to
If it was an American flag, nothing would've been done.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:12 am to
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Per capita, black people are charged with hate crimes at a higher rate than white people.

Something I've pointed out and linked probably more than a dozen times on here, it makes people really mad every time.
maybe they should stop committing so many crimes and having all that hate
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:13 am to
If I buy a LBG whatever flag and take it to a protest and burn it is that a hate crime?

What is I light the lb whatever flag off a burning American flag? Is it still a hate crime?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130231 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:13 am to
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Are there loving crimes?



Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:14 am to
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any crime committed by a black person in this country is apt to be viewed more seriously than the same crime committed by a black person in vast reaches if not all of the nation.

Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
11307 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:16 am to
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Trannies are his thing. He's in every one posting hundreds of excuses why you have to believe like he does.



I could care less what or how anyone "believes" anything. The problem ain't about believing the problem is that some of you never ever hear a dissenting question and when you do you freak the frick out and start in with the name calling and the whatnot because you lack the intellectual prowess to process information.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130231 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:17 am to
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because it is up to police and prosecutors to define a hate versus common crime of similar nature and both groups are over represented by extremely conservative individuals.





Oh yeah...totally
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