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re: Notre Dame cathedral is burning down
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:09 pm to JumpingTheShark
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:09 pm to JumpingTheShark
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I would say statistically speaking it is deifnitely more likely that there was an accident during renovation than a terrorist attack...don’t you think?
Normally I would agree.
But with the vast amount of French churches (many in Paris) being targets of vandalism and arson in recent weeks, I don’t think it’s a coincidence. I mean, the same thing (afternoon arson) happened to another famous cathedral just a couple weeks ago
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:10 pm to fillmoregandt
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Normally I would agree.
But with the vast amount of French churches (many in Paris) being targets of vandalism and arson in recent weeks, I don’t think it’s a coincidence. I mean, the same thing (afternoon arson) happened to another famous cathedral just a couple weeks ago
and how does a terrorist get access to the roof of one of the most famous buildings in the world without being noticed?
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:11 pm to JumpingTheShark
Why would a terrorist attack be setting an area of the church under construction on fire? I'm not a terrorism expert but that seems pretty far from their M.O.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:11 pm to stout
If it turns out to be an accident by one of the construction companies, the management and owners will be criminally prosecuted.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:11 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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and how does a terrorist get access to the roof of one of the most famous buildings in the world without being noticed?
So it started in the roof? Link?
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:11 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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and how does a terrorist get access to the roof of one of the most famous buildings in the world without being noticed?
Fly a drone with a payload designed to cause a fire? Not likely but just saying it's not impossible.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:11 pm to upgrayedd
That the French police are covering up terror attacks? No I don't find it plausible
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:12 pm to Ed Osteen
I am only referring to the he wording I have seen throughout a large part of this thread.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:12 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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and how does a terrorist get access to the roof of one of the most famous buildings in the world without being noticed
As a construction worker?
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:12 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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and how does a terrorist get access to the roof of one of the most famous buildings in the world without being noticed?
It was being renovated. Have you ever been on a construction site? It's very easy to gain access.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:12 pm to Ed Osteen
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I'm not a terrorism expert but that seems pretty far from their M.O.
Don't underestimate how much extreme Muslims despise Christianity and especially Catholicism.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:13 pm to fillmoregandt
Might be a dumb question, but with the fire chief coming out saying the structure has been preserved, does that mean in fact this isn’t a catastrophe anymore?
More like a fire burning a kitchen in a house but leaving rest intact?
More like a fire burning a kitchen in a house but leaving rest intact?
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:13 pm to fillmoregandt
IMO, the Jesuits will have all the answers by 5pm tomorrow. They have eyes & ears everywhere.
Whether they'll share any information is another question.
Whether they'll share any information is another question.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:14 pm to Ed Osteen
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Why would a terrorist attack be setting an area of the church under construction on fire? I'm not a terrorism expert but that seems pretty far from their M.O.
Idk, easy access and flammable materials? Exposed structure? It’s not like he’d walk up to the front door. I’m not a terrorism expert either
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It means they put enough of the fire out that the heat is no longer a threat to collapse the walls. Despite the walls being stone they can crack under extreme prolonged heat and cause structural failure.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Might be a dumb question, but with the fire chief coming out saying the structure has been preserved, does that mean in fact this isn’t a catastrophe anymore?
More like a fire burning a kitchen in a house but leaving rest intact?
I assume he means the walls and general shape of the lower portion will remain. But I also assume everything is gutted.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:15 pm to Tunasntigers92
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Where are you seeing people celebrate this? Did you just make that up?
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Might be a dumb question, but with the fire chief coming out saying the structure has been preserved, does that mean in fact this isn’t a catastrophe anymore?
More like a fire burning a kitchen in a house but leaving rest intact?
rose windows are destroyed
reports part of the vault collapsed, which modern scientists don't event properly understand how it works.
entire frame is destroyed.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:16 pm to Ed Osteen
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Why would a terrorist attack be setting an area of the church under construction on fire? I'm not a terrorism expert but that seems pretty far from their M.O.
Easier access/ability to burn down the building
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:19 pm to Ed Osteen
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Why would a terrorist attack be setting an area of the church under construction on fire? I'm not a terrorism expert but that seems pretty far from their M.O.
You're correct, we just have some people so committed to it being terrorism they'll disagree with your very neutral statement of fact
9/11 was a tremendous outlier when it comes to the creativity of Islamic terrorists.
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