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re: Not Voting = Not Being Allowed to Bitch/Criticize...Why?
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:01 pm to Teufelhunden
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:01 pm to Teufelhunden
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This one seems like a viable option. Princess Khadijah
Her platform:
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1. We want an immediate end to police brutality and murders committed by police!
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3. We want CPS (Child Protective Services) immediately ABOLISHED! We want every child sitting in foster care to be reunited with their parents if possible.
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5. We want to legalize cannabis in all 50 states
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11. We want REPARATIONS! We want every person in America whose parents, grandparents or great-grandparents were descendants from slaves, to be allowed to establish a separate state or territory of their own, either on this continent or elsewhere. They believe that their former slave masters are obligated to provide such land and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich. They believe that their former slave masters are obligated to maintain And supply their needs in this separate territory for the next 20 to 25 years, until they are able to produce and supply their own needs.
LINK
Seems legit
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:20 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Mo Jeaux
Are you trying to be worthless, or are you actually worthless?
All I've seen you do is make cute little one liners without actually contributing to the discussion.
You can bitch about the choices, but you have no reason to bitch about the result if you didn't use your voice.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:21 pm to Cowboyfan89
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You can bitch about the choices, but you have no reason to bitch about the result if you didn't use your voice.
If you have minimal to no say in the choices, do you even have a voice?
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:22 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Are you trying to be worthless
No.
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or are you actually worthless?
In what way? Do you think I am?
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you have no reason to bitch about the result if you didn't use your voice.
Of course I can. As had been pointed out to you and others in this thread, your assertion is illogical.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:29 pm to saint amant steve
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Not Voting = Not Being Allowed to Bitch/Criticize
One of the dumbest cliche's ever. No logic at all
And it's is foolish to vote. Chances of dying on the way to vote are greater than chances of your vote counting.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:38 pm to NoSaint
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so what are you doing to better things outside of voting?
I pay my taxes and obey the law. That's more than a lot of people can say.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:18 pm to Bard
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Which is about as useful as protesting gasoline prices by urging people not to buy gasoline on a certain date.
So is voting if you aren't in a swing state....
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If you vote you've at least taken a chance. If you don't, you're just sitting on the fence because you are either too scared or too lazy to research enough to pick between the lesser of two evils.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:28 pm to Mo Jeaux
So I suppose you'd just rather live in a dictatorship then?
This is akin to the Tragedy of the Commons. Let's say I believe that if I don't vote, it doesn't make a difference. Now let's say every other person believes the same thing. If no person votes, because they believe their vote doesn't count, who wins?
And don't give me the bullshite "well that's not true" argument. I know that is not the case, but of everyone believed this bullshite of "my vote doesn't matter", this would be the case. And it is that exact attitude, as pointed out in this thread, that is the reason behind the "I'll just sit home and bitch and moan about the results".
What if every state actually mattered? Would you still sit home and bitch about the results after you DIDN'T vote?
This is like those people that bitch about how bad things are, but don't do anything to change it.
"Well what can I do?"
Well, for starters, you can quit being a bitch and get out there.
This is akin to the Tragedy of the Commons. Let's say I believe that if I don't vote, it doesn't make a difference. Now let's say every other person believes the same thing. If no person votes, because they believe their vote doesn't count, who wins?
And don't give me the bullshite "well that's not true" argument. I know that is not the case, but of everyone believed this bullshite of "my vote doesn't matter", this would be the case. And it is that exact attitude, as pointed out in this thread, that is the reason behind the "I'll just sit home and bitch and moan about the results".
What if every state actually mattered? Would you still sit home and bitch about the results after you DIDN'T vote?
This is like those people that bitch about how bad things are, but don't do anything to change it.
"Well what can I do?"
Well, for starters, you can quit being a bitch and get out there.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:32 pm to saint amant steve
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Non-coaches, a.k.a. fans, are allowed to question the play-calling of their favorite teams.
I pay for season tickets and I pay a cable bill in order to watch their product which they make money off of.
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Diners are allowed to criticize the culinary abilities of a restaurant, although many might not be cooks.
I paid to eat at the restaurant, therfore I can criticize.
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Why am I not allowed to express my dissentiment towards either candidate just because I refuse to participate?
You can complain, you're just a lazy hypocritical bitch.
And I what about the rest of the things in the ballot? Do any of those things actually matter to you?
For instance, in Louisiana, school boards want the power granted by constitutional amendment to raise and lower tuition and fees with no oversight or approval?
You have an opinion on that?
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:37 pm to saint amant steve
People vote so they can feel important or blast on social media who they're voting for. It's all for attention. Especially now in an election where it's basically minorities with Hillary Clinton against the big bad white man in Trump. It's pointless, really.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:38 pm to saint amant steve
Let me ask you a question.
If you saw a restaurant full of people, and everyone was eating in the restaurant and there was just one guy standing outside the restaurant bitching about the menu and shitting on the quality of the food and making fun of everyone's choices but he had never actually eaten in the restaurant or even been inside, what would you think of that guy?
If you saw a restaurant full of people, and everyone was eating in the restaurant and there was just one guy standing outside the restaurant bitching about the menu and shitting on the quality of the food and making fun of everyone's choices but he had never actually eaten in the restaurant or even been inside, what would you think of that guy?
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:40 pm to saint amant steve
Agreed. If the candidates are all shite and I don't want them representing me, why should I cast a vote their way to give them permission to represent me and my opinions. I stayed at home this year, and had no problem voting for Mitt last time.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:45 pm to OMLandshark
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If the candidates are all shite and I don't want them representing me, why should I cast a vote their way to give them permission to represent me and my opinions. I stayed at home this year,
The only thing on the ballot in your district was the Presidential election??
No local reps, no Congress, no amendments, no Parish ordinances, etc...?
Just the president?
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:49 pm to cwil177
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Do you criticize a restaurant without eating at it?
Lol that's not even remotely the same scenario.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:05 pm to Breesus
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The only thing on the ballot in your district was the Presidential election??
No local reps, no Congress, no amendments, no Parish ordinances, etc...?
Just the president?
Yeah, I was tempted, but looking into it, there wasn't anything on my ballot that I. Cared all that much about. Recent Texan.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:07 pm to Breesus
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If you saw a restaurant full of people, and everyone was eating in the restaurant and there was just one guy standing outside the restaurant bitching about the menu and shitting on the quality of the food and making fun of everyone's choices but he had never actually eaten in the restaurant or even been inside, what would you think of that guy?
Here's the thing: I've seen where they got the food, how they prepared the food, how the waiters have been spitting on the food, and it smells like total dog shite. No, I don't need to take a bite to know that it's bad for me and awful.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:18 pm to Cowboyfan89
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So I suppose you'd just rather live in a dictatorship then?
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:45 pm to saint amant steve
Oh you can whine all you want we just don't want to hear it because you didn't have the nuts to try and do something about it
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:18 pm to Cowboyfan89
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And don't give me the bullshite "well that's not true" argument. I know that is not the case, but of everyone believed this bullshite of "my vote doesn't matter", this would be the case.
Nope, you're still confused.
What makes a single person's vote not matter is the fact that so many people (falsely) believe their votes do matter.
If suddenly everyone decided to stay home, then a single person's vote would matter b/c nobody else is voting.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:34 pm to foshizzle
Technically speaking, no, one person's vote would not matter, because to win the presidential election, it takes 270 electorate votes, which could not be obtained from one vote in one state.
I mean, if you want to be really technical, the electoral college can cast their vote any direction, so it really doesn't matter if anyone votes or not.
Still doesn't change my opinion on the matter. You have no room to bitch if you aren't out there trying to do something.
When has sitting on your arse and pouting like a little girl changed anything in the world?
I mean, if you want to be really technical, the electoral college can cast their vote any direction, so it really doesn't matter if anyone votes or not.
Still doesn't change my opinion on the matter. You have no room to bitch if you aren't out there trying to do something.
When has sitting on your arse and pouting like a little girl changed anything in the world?
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