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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:41 pm to
I interviewed with them as well out of college.

I didn't take the job after further research. Like you said it is 100% commission and because of that, it's got an incredibly high failure rate. NW Mutual has little incentive to train you, develop you, or help you if you're struggling. They hire eons of people and just rely on that person making 2-4 sales from the list of 300 contacts or so. Most people you contact will say no. Others will meet you for a lunch, but also decline as well.

I didn't like the completely uncertain wages, along with having to hound friends/relatives to try to get paid. Everyone has different circumstances though so you may be up for that.

Just know that if you fail, NW Mutual has no problem cutting ties or letting you walk because they have basically nothing invested in you. You can only make them money, as you don't get paid unless you make a sale. It's sort of comparable to a pyramid scheme with how they work in regards to hiring salesmen. That being said, they do offer pretty competitive policies. The company is legitimate, the hiring process is just iffy to me
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

also states that the average salary is 250k and could earn more with classes that they provide
bit of a farce. and this would only include well established reps

they want all those names bc if you dont make it, other reps will call them

ETA: I'm in the business with another firm and not forced to sell so much life ins
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Count Chocula
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:44 pm to
According to industry retention records, Northwestern Mutual has a 17% first year agent retention record... and that's one of the better ones.

Put it another way, you got less than a 20% shot at being there a year from now. Good luck!
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7957 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:44 pm to
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the guys who make it in this field stay in it a long time and are uber go-getters who don't mind asking for 300 numbers. its not for everyone. you have to do major volume to make a living selling insurance and it will take a long time for you to earn enough accreditation and credibility to do wealth management/financial planning.


This. And the guy who said it is all younger agents there is FOS, the older guys clean up in that office. It's not for everyone but it's also not a profession to shite on. You aren't bugging somebody if you're offering a service they actually can use.
Posted by GalvestonTiger12
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Member since May 2013
551 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:45 pm to
Tigerfan 56 I went there for first interview and she told me she would setup second interview and upon second interview I was informed they wanted me to do homework which consists of gathering the 300 names. Was also told they invest 150k on the person they hire and buy a computer for them and train them for success. To me if I could do cold calls I would be more successful than just family and friends.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104488 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

You aren't bugging somebody if you're offering a service they actually can use.


Spoken like a true salesman.
Posted by ChineseBandit66
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jul 2013
1794 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:45 pm to
Its a ridiculous job that most can not make it at, you will bust your balls for no real return. Go work for someone more reputable with a 6 mos training program etc...

have a friend who worked for them for 3 months then had to pay the money back he earned per commission, accounts gained etc being low...truth is tho that even Edward Jones screw people who dont work for them for 2 or more years bc they pay for the Series 7 exams and back that license while you hold it first few years

Dont do it
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86571 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:46 pm to
I've been Commission only since roughly 2001 with a few brief intervals of paid compensation thrown in. I'd never accept salary because I couldn't take the pay cut . I have also never sold a product (what I do is a bit different) to anyone I knew, except for one friend who was persistent. The REAL services ballers have other ways to procure clientele. That usually only comes with time and industry credibility. I'd keep looking, unless you are good soliciting people you know. If you are comfortable doing that, then by all means-go all in.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

also states that the average salary is 250k


No, no it's not.
Posted by GalvestonTiger12
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
551 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:53 pm to
I figured that it wasn't that much either but I do want to know what the first 5 yrs looks like in terms of yearly average.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 12:54 pm
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59332 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:54 pm to
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Also I don't know enough professional ppl who have families are good jobs who would even be interested

You better start networking, or looking into a different career.
Posted by GalvestonTiger12
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
551 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:59 pm to
HoustonChick86 would you be interested in setting your financial goals?
Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
13186 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Lsupimp

And the mystery continues.......

Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25482 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:09 pm to
Interviewed with them myself towards the end of senior year in college. I think they only wanted 100 names or so when i did (05-06).

I remember when I got the offer and went to a pre-orientation thing they got up there and said "we interviewed literally thousands of applicants for these 20 positions, and you got a spot."

I went through training (If i recall you have to take a test of some sort), and on the morning I was supposed to start, called before 7 am and said thanks for the opportunity but no thanks.

22 year old me was dumb as rocks about some of his decisions
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59332 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

HoustonChick86 would you be interested in setting your financial goals?

I think you might need to work on your sales pitch.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138867 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

GalvestonTiger12
this poster is an above-average troll

5.75/10
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
12553 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Oh and they don't cold call, strictly referrals.



This always makes me laugh. How are you going to build a referral base without cold calling? Your cold calls will slow down as you get more referrals but initially you'll be cold calling your arse off.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26752 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

the average salary is 250k


Sounds high. Probably more like 250k is the average salary for people who have been doing this for 10+ years which only represents about 10% of our workforce and most people fail miserably at this and spend a couple of years making 30k a year before quitting.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86571 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 2:01 pm to
I am the largest wholesaler of frat-tastik "Club Homeboy" t-shirts in the region.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6619 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 2:07 pm to
No offense to you personally, but you won't make $250K. Industry average is in the $50's. That's not to say through experience you can't build a business/clientele that gets you to $250K say in 15 years.

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