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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40389 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:06 am to
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The base salary would decrease over three years. Also, not real sure about benefits being that I have good insurance currently but never know when another layoff will happen.


The real pay is always in the base salary. Base is guaranteed. Commissions are not.

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37620 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:07 am to
Forgot to mention. My Northwestern Mutual guy is from New Orleans, and I think he might have gone to LSU.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18351 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:16 am to
I have my life insurance through them and they got me good rates.

Their office was very professional with no high pressure sales.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65497 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:27 am to
quote:

It would be a way to own my own business.


This is false. Don't ever forget it. It's Edward Jones' business and they let you run it. The only way for you to "Truly" own your business is to go independent and clear your business through one of the large independent brokers. The day you decide to move, more than likely (although not always), they will pursue you in court.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78725 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

EJ is offering me a starting salary if I accept the contract


Can't be too much. I'd be shocked if it were 40k or more. Is there a draw involved?
Posted by Tigerfan19
Member since Mar 2004
2236 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Can't be too much. I'd be shocked if it were 40k or more. Is there a draw involved?


Its based off my current salary. Offer they said will be over 50 to start. Someone mentioned if after some time I decided to leave EJ they would pursue me in court if I would leave and go to another company? Wondering if this is true. Thx
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37620 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Its based off my current salary. Offer they said will be over 50 to start. Someone mentioned if after some time I decided to leave EJ they would pursue me in court if I would leave and go to another company? Wondering if this is true. Thx


You'd need to take a REAL good look at the noncompete. Because your clients will have a relationship with you moreso than Edward Jones. And if you decided to leave, EJ isn't going to be ok with that entire book of business walking as well.
Posted by Tigerfan19
Member since Mar 2004
2236 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:46 pm to
understandable, I'm looking to get out of the O&G industry and have my last assessment tomorrow. Just looking on thoughts on EJ and if anyone worked there or had success in the Financial Advisor positions.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78725 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:48 pm to
Are they requiring you to knock on doors?
Posted by Tigerfan19
Member since Mar 2004
2236 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:52 pm to
Yes in the beginning to build up my business.
Posted by Tigerfan19
Member since Mar 2004
2236 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:10 pm to
I wouldn't have my own office with all the expenses I would most likely share an office at first and in 6-12 months get my own office. I may be able to get some of that person's lower assets in the beginning. Not sure it's worth the risk though but hey I can get laid off tomorrow in the industry that I am in now esp after the Iran deal and oil continually dropping.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78725 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:08 pm to
I wonder how long that process will last?
Posted by Tigerfan19
Member since Mar 2004
2236 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:29 am to
Not really sure I have my assessment this afternoon
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:35 am to
The book of business you build does not belong to you, it will belong to EJ. So, when you leave them you cannot actively pursue those clients. If you do then EJ may take legal actions. There are ways around this but it can happen.
Posted by Tigerfan19
Member since Mar 2004
2236 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:06 am to
quote:

The book of business you build does not belong to you, it will belong to EJ. So, when you leave them you cannot actively pursue those clients. If you do then EJ may take legal actions. There are ways around this but it can happen.


Thanks I completely understand this and makes sense.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65497 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:09 am to
quote:

I would most likely share an office at first and in 6-12 months get my own office. I may be able to get some of that person's lower assets in the beginning.


That's an entirely different program. You need to know if that's what you are doing. And I'll tell you right now, no way your base is going to be 50 grand. No possible way.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:12 am to
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You need to first ascertain how many original agents that were "hired" are still employed by NWM. With that, you may understand that these will likely be the only people that you may ever sell. Really what happens is that you call 300, meet 30, and sell 10. Then you end up leaving this job because you can't earn money while those who you sold stay with NWM paying their premium and you no longer collect your commissions from the insurer.


Replace Northwestern Mutual with Edward Jones and you could say the exact same thing.
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