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re: North Baton Rouge vs. South Baton Rouge and Gary Chambers

Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:20 pm to
Most of the schools in NBR aren't that bad, it's the students that are bad.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134887 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:27 pm to
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Most of the schools in NBR aren't that bad, it's the students that are bad.


And if you say that, you're racist.

It brings up an interesting point, though. They often bring up the actual institution as being the problem and not those that are in said institution. It's kind of like saying a particular church is bad, but all the parishioners are great people.
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:34 pm to
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You really have to look at the LSU northgate model. You just have to start beating back the ghetto by razing it and starting fresh.


But that's the catch-22. If you come in and "revitalize" an area by pumping capital into it, you are accused of "gentrification." It's like, come put money into our community, but don't move here and make it too nice. It's true. Speaking of "gentrification," the entire concept is just laughable. Areas that are "gentrified" started off as white neighborhoods from the get go. If whites return the the neighborhood it's somehow now a negative thing called "gentrification."
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:36 pm to
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And if you say that, you're racist.


That's because the people of NBR don't want to face the real problems troubling their city.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134887 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:43 pm to
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But that's the catch-22. If you come in and "revitalize" an area by pumping capital into it, you are accused of "gentrification." It's like, come put money into our community, but don't move here and make it too nice. It's true. Speaking of "gentrification," the entire concept is just laughable. Areas that are "gentrified" started off as white neighborhoods from the get go. If whites return the the neighborhood it's somehow now a negative thing called "gentrification."


You've boiled down their argument to it's essence.

Give us your money, stay out of our neighborhood, and if we run out of money or want something newer/better stuff, you better give it to us.

Basically "we want what you have but we don't want to work for it".
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67212 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:43 pm to
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They seriously want people from SBR to come to NBR to develop things?


Of course not. Then, it would be gentrification.

Let's look at why NBR is the way it is. They claim the infrastructure is out of date and stagnated. Most of it was built in the 60's and 70's, but NBR has an actual road grid, with plenty of 4-lane highways. It's population has not grown at all since the 70's, and in fact, has shrunk. In the meantime, the south side, which was nothing but farm roads up until the mid 80's, has seen tremendous growth. Infrastructure investment was needed because it was undeveloped. The North Side doesn't need any more roads or expanded roads. Sure, it could use some new traffic lights, repaved streets, repaired pot-holes, light synching, ect, but so could most of the roads in the parish.

There are 4 glaring issues for NBR going forward that need to be solved:
1. Terrible public schools. I don't think the blame is exclusively on the management of the schools or on the students, but they both certainly share blame
2. Lack of an Emergency Room. This is absolutely needed, but where will the money come from to pay for it?
3. Crime. No one wants to start up a business in an area with frequent robberies and murders.
4. Zoning blight. Most of the empty commercial space along Plank Road, Scenic Highway, and other thoroughfares of NBR were built prior to modern building codes. They have out of code electrical systems and lack the room for the requisite number of parking spaces and wheelchair ramps. It is physically impossible for those properties to be renovated into commercial spaces to comply with those building codes. Once an old building is renovated beyond a set percentage of its tax-assessed value, it has to be fully upgraded to meet all modern building codes. These blighted properties are thus too far gone to be renovated cheaply enough to reopen, and the property won't allow for the parking spaces needed to be brought up to modern specs. This can be fixed by: A. re-assessing the tax value higher, B. adjusting the building codes so that in older areas businesses can operate with fewer parking spaces, or C. offering a special program to grandfather in more types of buildings.

The broken homes in the black community cause 1 and 3. 2 and 4 can be fixed, but only with SBR involvement and money, which likely won't happen prior to solving 1 and 3.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Bootyrich
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2015
1189 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:44 pm to
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Isn't that guy in the profile pic a competitive eater?


Gary chambers is a competitive eater now lol
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20452 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:46 pm to
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Basically "we want what you have but we don't want to work for it".


And all because there was slavery 150 years ago.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3264 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:48 pm to
That was a great job breaking it down. Have an upvote
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134887 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:54 pm to
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And all because there was slavery 150 years ago.


It's more than that. They think that they get treated the same now as they did in 1925.

I can't blame them 100%, though. All you have to do is look at their supposed "leaders" in their communities and you'll see that they are purposefully spoon-fed lies by these hucksters like Gary Chambers because if everyone gets along, they're out of a job or are no longer relevant.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18884 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 2:14 pm to
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And if you say that, you're racist.

And there is one of the main problems. Hiding behind the "r" word is deflecting from the problem.
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 2:44 pm to
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quote:
Isn't that guy in the profile pic a competitive eater?


Gary chambers is a competitive eater now lol


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