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re: NOLA named 4th least competitive job market in US
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:44 pm to Louie T
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:44 pm to Louie T
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Exactly how I feel in regard to LV immediately post-K versus 2016. LV offers nothing to drive up the prices of houses 1.5-2x what they're going for in Metairie & Gentilly.
By all means, Buy in Gentilly. There are great areas of gentilly. Have you looked into Lake Oaks subdivision (not sure if that is Gentilly or not).
Chilly Gentilly, home of the Krewe of Dreaux. Do they still "roll"?
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:47 pm to DCtiger1
quote:In cities way larger? A city that is ranked 50th in population should not host that many fortune 500 companies
then where the hell are all the Fortune 500 and 1000 companies?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:48 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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hat would be fine and all, IF the very report that started this whole thread didn't list Lafayette Louisiana as number TEN on it's list of 10 least competitive job markets. That's right, Lafayette is 6 spots lower than NOLA on the list in the OP.
Lafayette is not providing better "white collar" jobs for young people as you claim, and neither is Baton Rouge.
Some of you are in denial or have never actually lived outside of New Orleans.
Lafayette, a small city whose entire economy is almost entirely based on oil services is ranking as poorly as New Orleans at a time when oil and gas prices are at historic lows and the oil services industry doesn't have a heartbeat.
That's pretty bleak.
I know a lot of you sunshine pumpers like to think that everything is all peachy, but the lack of high paying jobs that come with corporate headquarters is a huge problem for Louisiana and New Orleans in particular.
Try not to get so defensive and accept this as constructive criticism. The largest city in Louisiana has fewer Fortune 500 companies that Oklahoma City or Memphis. It's seen its energy sector disappear with quickness in the 1980s and it has not diversified its economy in any meaningful way since then. Its primary growth industries are almost entirely subsidized by taxpayers all over the state of Louisiana, and opportunities are severely limited there beyond service level jobs that cater to the tourism industry.
None of that will be corrected with a subsidized film business, a subsidized NFL team, violent crime, cultural amenities, a few more Super bowls, and more of the same insecurities/penis envy over whatever is or is not happening in Baton Rouge, Houston, Atlanta, Dallas, or the north shore.
The things that make New Orleans unique would not be impacted in any way by significantly increased corporate business activity and more white collar jobs....and that's exactly what the city and state needs.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:49 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Lafayette is 6 spots lower than NOLA on the list in the OP
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Lafayette is not providing better "white collar" jobs
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NOLA named 4th least competitive job market in US
You want to be lower on this list. The problem with good ol Louisiana is that we are high on these lists and low on list we are supposed to be high on. I just want to see the state be 25 or 26 in everything, who knows what would actually happen then.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:52 pm to H.M. Murdock
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I appreciate it very much. I just do so from a 4,000 sqft home with pool and nice garage in Metry baw.
My brother and my sister live in Metairie by the Lakefront, another lives in Kenner by the LF, one lives on the North Shore........ it's all nice but NOLA is for me. It has a different feel to it.
I like my home in Lakeshore. I like my neighbors. Plenty of Gentrification going on, too....
I like the proximity to the Bayou, the useable lakefront, marinas, restaurants, City Park, Grammar Schools, High Schools, etc......
It fits my life.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:54 pm to dewster
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The things that make New Orleans unique would not be impacted in any way by significantly increased corporate business activity and more white collar jobs....and that's exactly what the city and state needs.
have you seen some of the crying about gentrification?
knowing New Orleans, they will claim that the "culture" is affected by growth
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:57 pm to AwesomeSauce
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You want to be lower on this list. The problem with good ol Louisiana is that we are high on these lists and low on list we are supposed to be high on. I just want to see the state be 25 or 26 in everything, who knows what would actually happen then.
It shouldn't be okay with New Orleans to be comparable to Lafayette especially with the energy sector being what it is right now.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:58 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
I love the Lakefront, but the Lakefront isn't LV. I'd be happy to buy a boathouse on Breakwater Dr, and I have even looked at some. But $400k for a non gutted property with that insurance nightmare is enough to make someone with much more money than I squirm.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:00 pm to dewster
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The things that make New Orleans unique would not be impacted in any way by significantly increased corporate business activity and more white collar jobs....and that's exactly what the city and state needs.
Not one person has disagreed with this statement.
Of course everyone would like more Fortune 500 companies to relocate to NOLA, but that is not likely to happen. We do have many challenges to face.
Let me ask you a question. "What is it about NOLA that causes people to care about it?" The care is undeniable. No other city has the number of threads devoted to it that NOLA does. Those threads always draw many posts. People either love or hate it, at least enough to have an opinion and take the time to post. Judging from the length of your post, you care a decent amount. Why?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:00 pm to chalmetteowl
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have you seen some of the crying about gentrification?
knowing New Orleans, they will claim that the "culture" is affected by growth
Literally happening in every city in America.
The "crying" isn't specific to any city.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:01 pm to chalmetteowl
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have you seen some of the crying about gentrification?
You mean the losers who desperately want things to stay exactly as they are?
A lot of people there can use the perspective that comes with living elsewhere for a while....and I don't mean Jefferson Parish.
A lot of the problems in that area would solve themselves if there were better public schools and more corporate headquarters in and around New Orleans.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:01 pm to chalmetteowl
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have you seen some of the crying about gentrification?
Not on this board. Only those who are afraid they will be priced out and have to leave their comfort zone.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:04 pm to member12
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It shouldn't be okay with New Orleans to be comparable to Lafayette especially with the energy sector being what it is right now.
Lafayette is struggling with the energy sector being what it is right now. Even with that NOLA is ranked 6 spots higher. So with everything going on in Lafayette it still has a more favorable job market then NOLA.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:06 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Judging from the length of your post, you care a decent amount. Why?
I was born and raised in south Louisiana, and I want to move back one day.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:06 pm to dewster
quote:That houseboat is long gone baw
I was born and raised in south Louisiana, and I want to move back one day.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:10 pm to Louie T
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I love the Lakefront, but the Lakefront isn't LV.
Most people on this board and most people in NOLA can't tell the difference between:
Lakeview
Lakeshore
Lake Vista
Lake Terrace
or
Lake Oaks (maybe).
Most generalize the term Lakeview for the middle/upper-middle income neighborhoods that are reasonably safe from crime and not predominantly settled by African Americans.
Boathouses are problematic. 1st floor has to be tear-away. Limited improvements, IMHO.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:13 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Let me ask you a question. "What is it about NOLA that causes people to care about it?" The care is undeniable. No other city has the number of threads devoted to it that NOLA does. Those threads always draw many posts. People either love or hate it, at least enough to have an opinion and take the time to post. Judging from the length of your post, you care a decent amount. Why?
I realize this question wasn't directed at me, but I'd like to take a crack at it anyway.
I agree with you 100% that the people of New Orleans and surrounding areas care greatly for New Orleans, probably more than most cities in the country can say. But despite the rhetoric here, there are plenty of people who fall somewhere between loving it and hating it. I am one of those people. I respect all of the wonderful history of the city, the uniqueness, the food, the culture, the architecture, etc. But it's impossible for me to turn a blind eye to the many problems that New Orleans has, which I won't bother mentioning as they have been listed in this thread many times already. And those problems are a huge concern to me, to the point where the cons are beginning to outweigh the pros.
It's just not a place I would want to live in it's current state. And I know many New Orleans natives would react with "well if you don't like it, then GTFO." But that's my biggest problem with the mindset of the city - progress is viewed as counter-intuitive to the things that make the city special. Instead of facing the problems, people tend to turn a blind eye to it and shrug it off as, "it is what it is, that's just part of being in the city, and anyone who even says something that could be interpreted as slightly negative about New Orleans just doesn't get it and doesn't belong with us."
tl;dr: I do care greatly for the city and want to see it improve. I just get annoyed with those that are content to just let things be, which I feel like I see more out of New Orleans natives than in any other city.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:13 pm to dewster
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and I want to move back one day.
Jump on in, the water is FINE.......
I hope you are able to return one day.
Had a chance to take a job in California. Decided against it based on family circumstances and that still nags at me.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:15 pm to AbitaFan08
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It's just not a place I would want to live in it's current state. And I know many New Orleans natives would react with "well if you don't like it, then GTFO." But that's my biggest problem with the mindset of the city - progress is viewed as counter-intuitive to the things that make the city special. Instead of facing the problems, people tend to turn a blind eye to it and shrug it off as, "it is what it is, that's just part of being in the city, and anyone who even says something that could be interpreted as slightly negative about New Orleans just doesn't get it and doesn't belong with us."
It's social structure is very clickish and parochial...even more than in other parts of the state. There are people that want things to change, but there's a powerful faction that doesn't.
Houston, San Jose, Dallas, Atlanta 'burbs....few people there are obsessed over where you went to high school.
I don't think that's what drove the oil industry away from New Orleans though.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:15 pm to AbitaFan08
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It's just not a place I would want to live in it's current state. And I know many New Orleans natives would react with "well if you don't like it, then GTFO." But that's my biggest problem with the mindset of the city - progress is viewed as counter-intuitive to the things that make the city special. Instead of facing the problems, people tend to turn a blind eye to it and shrug it off as, "it is what it is, that's just part of being in the city, and anyone who even says something that could be interpreted as slightly negative about New Orleans just doesn't get it and doesn't belong with us."
Well, the GTFO crowd is not helping. There are plenty people working every day to make it a better city. I hope we succeed. Thus far, the pros outweigh the cons for me. I hope that never changes.
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