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re: No punishment for 16 West Point cadets in raised-fist photo
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:02 am to bigblake
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:02 am to bigblake
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I'm sure Audie had done something unbecoming before doing that act.
How can you be so sure?
The record (which is all we have to go by) is that Audie Murphy was an exemplary soldier in every way. They didn't hand out all those decorations and award battlefield commissions to soldiers who did "unbecoming things".
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:08 am to LSUTANGERINE
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This is so not a big deal. The OT masses love to complain about liberals who get offended or upset Unless of course, it's the OT conservative masses themselves being offended or rustled by a statement of some sort. So much rustle in this thread that I can hear it.
The hard right on this board are basically the SJW of the other side.
"Oh my god they are coming for our guns and bibles"
This is just people celebrating their collective history. History not hate folks
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 8:14 am
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:13 am to Boxcar
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What service? They arent vetrans, there in school?
The numbers fluctuate, but around 10-15% of each entering class are prior enlisted, ie, veterans.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:14 am to Charlie Arglist
Has anybody mentioned "cultcha"?
And I'm sure they met the same admission standards as their co-eds.
And I'm sure they met the same admission standards as their co-eds.
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 8:15 am
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:17 am to Dire Wolf
quote:This comparison has been made multiple times in this thread, and it has been dumb every time. We arent offended. Some just know what the military stands for, and wants those rules and regulations upheld without fear from the outside.
The hard right on this board are basically the SJW of the other side.
What does that have to doing with being "offended?"
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:18 am to Easy
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I only meant two or more black people standing together make a "group". Not that they have officially segregated groups. I'm unaware of they do.
This obviously was. That pic covers 16 out of 17 black female seniors. If that's not an officially segregated group, it will do until an officially segregated group comes along.
Pathetic response from the academy.
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 8:18 am
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:19 am to lsupride87
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This comparison has been made multiple times in this thread, and it has been dumb every time. We arent offended. Some just know what the military stands for, and wants those rules and regulations upheld without fear from the outside.
But this is one of many times the same group of people get upset over nothing.
This, to me, would be like a group Texan West Point grads taking picture with the Texas flag.
It's not like they were tossing gang signs.
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 8:20 am
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:20 am to Ace Midnight
This pic and the response by WP is further evidence as to why it always will be USMC>>>>>>>>>Army
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 8:36 am
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:20 am to Dire Wolf
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This, to me, would be like a group Texan West Point grads taking picture with the Texas flag.
I refuse to believe you truly think thisPosted on 5/11/16 at 8:22 am to lsupride87
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I refuse to believe you truly think this
People with shared history taking a photo together. Who gives a frick?
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:22 am to LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:23 am to Dire Wolf
quote:At LSU I dont give a frick. This isnt LSU. There are clear cut policies against this. And the Army caved due to outside pressure. Which is something I do not want to see the Army do
People with shared history taking a photo together. Who gives a frick?
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:27 am to lsupride87
Wasn't this started by Jesse Owens as a symbol of victory? I'm may be wrong on my history but I am a straight white male that doesn't get offended by everything I see. So naturally this picture bothers me about as much as a group of college kids making peace signs.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:27 am to Ace Midnight
Black female cadets taking a photo is a segregated group? Lol. It's a photo shoot to commemorate a shared struggle. I really doubt they segregated themselves while at the academy.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:28 am to CharlieDay
quote:Who in here is offended?
Wasn't this started by Jesse Owens as a symbol of victory? I'm may be wrong on my history but I am a straight white male that doesn't get offended by everything I see
I keep seeing this referenced, but I dont actually see anyone that is offendedPosted on 5/11/16 at 8:29 am to Easy
quote:
Black female cadets taking a photo is a segregated group?
All black female cadets of the same class taking a photo, isn't a segregated group?
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:29 am to CharlieDay
quote:No, it wasnt. Also, how a symbol started does not really matter. It is how it is perceived. For example, this is a symbol of good fortune and well-being:
Wasn't this started by Jesse Owens as a symbol of victory?
In no way am I comparing the symbols. Only showing how something starts is completely irrelevant.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:30 am to Charlie Arglist
Good.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:32 am to lsupride87
That symbol is widely used in Asian cultures to this very day.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:33 am to Pectus
I think the main issue with this thread is posters are trying to give the cadets the same "rights" as everyday college civilians. They think they are being good libertarians by saying nothing should be done. The military people in this thread understand certain civilian rights are lost when you join the military. There are simple rules you must follow or face discipline. And nobody should be above those rules.
However, for some reason, disagreeing with West Points decision somehow makes us "offended." I have yet to see someone claiming this explain how that makes any sense
However, for some reason, disagreeing with West Points decision somehow makes us "offended." I have yet to see someone claiming this explain how that makes any sense
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