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re: No punishment for 16 West Point cadets in raised-fist photo
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:22 am to Sentrius
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:22 am to Sentrius
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If you think there's nothing wrong with group pics with political statements, you want to see if a bunch of white guys trying out the Nazi salute can get away with that?
Reading the OT always reminds me of why race relations are so bad in this country. It's incomprehensible that one can equate a raised first to a nazi salute. If don't understand the difference you're hopeless.
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:26 am to hogminer
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You are fine with it because you dont know anything about being in the military.
I know that my friends in the military post more political social media propaganda than any other group of people I know.
I don't care when they do it, and I don't care when these cadets do it.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:31 am to lsupride87
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So basically he is saying West Point cadet graduates are mouth breathing morons who don't know what a raised first means while segregating themselves in an all black photo
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:41 am to Rhino5
And of course those up in arms because they weren't expelled or whatever left out this part.
Happy folks? It was addressed.
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"As members of the Profession of Arms, we are held to a high standard, where our actions are constantly observed and scrutinized in the public domain," the letter said. "We all must understand that a symbol or gesture that one group of people may find harmless may offend others. As Army officers, we are not afforded the luxury of a lack of awareness of how we are perceived." In deciding its response, West Point, which is 80 percent male and 70 percent white, had to balance its desire to increase diversity with its need for uniformity among leaders, said Mary Tobin, a 2003 graduate active in minority recruiting. "It's hard; these young cadets have a lot of demands put on them," Tobin said. "You have to manage perception and be very careful in ways other students their age don't." "It's not fair, but when you are a leader, you have to make challenges that others don't," she said. "I am more than confident there will be a lot of cultural training on this issue because of the photo."
Happy folks? It was addressed.
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 9:46 am
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:48 am to LSUTANGERINE
How many frats have been suspended or banned as a result of black face paint? And that's usually at a stupid Halloween party, not West Point cadets. Double standard today.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:50 am to LSUTANGERINE
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So a few thought it was racist. It was obviously not. And there was no disciplinary action. OK.
The investigation is "ongoing." I agree with, though. This is stupid. They call the dugout the "Zoo" and the kids do stupid things. I have seen many HS kids in the dugout say stupid crap.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:59 pm to fouldeliverer
Bunch of goddamned mouth-breathing scum who can't stand to see anybody non-white banding together for the fear of what THEY did when THEY banded together being visited upon them.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:02 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Happy folks? It was addressed.
No it wasn't.
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"I am more than confident there will be a lot of cultural training on this issue because of the photo."
bullshite. People are going to get punished who didn't do anything wrong. They're going to preach that this kind of divisive, anti-team, anti-uniform bullshite is RIGHT and those of us who know it's wrong are the ones who are actually wrong.
Utter bullshite.
(ETA: FTR, I was not for explusion. There are a range of sanctions available between "nothing" and "expulsion.")
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:02 pm to AHOUSEUNITED
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Bunch of goddamned mouth-breathing scum who can't stand to see anybody non-white banding together for the fear of what THEY did when THEY banded together being visited upon them.
What? What did the people here do?Posted on 5/11/16 at 7:11 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 7:12 pm to Charlie Arglist
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This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 5/11/16 at 7:13 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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the photo. But it's really not a huge deal. And neither would a group of southerner cadets with a confederate flag.
You are so full of shite.
You feel safe in saying this because you know it would never happen. The truth is, on the off-chance it actually DID happen, you'd lose your fricking mind. You wouldn't shut up about it.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 7:14 pm to Charlie Arglist
Cultural marxism wins again.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 7:35 pm to Charlie Arglist
So let some white guys pose with a Confederate flag and see what happens.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 7:38 pm to Charlie Arglist
Complete.
bullshite.
bullshite.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 7:42 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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Seems more like the black females on campus are just proud to be black and took a picture in a pose made famous by blacks during civil rights.
Has anyone actually defended why this isn't an ignorant retarded statement?
I'm sure someone has made the point that if it was a group of white men in a Heil Hitler salute you could use all the same arguments right?
Posted on 5/11/16 at 7:49 pm to Breesus
Double standards rule our world.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:10 pm to bigblake
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I wouldn't say these immature graduates are going to fail in the Army.
Nope. They will retire as colonels and general officers with very powerful, prestigious, positions before it's all over with.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:15 pm to jbgleason
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Should they be booted from the Academy for this? Absolutely not.
Yes.
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Should they be punished with their imminent graduation days away? No.
Yes.
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Will they feel pain for this stupid shite when they get to their duty stations? Yup.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:18 pm to East Coast Band
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They are members of our armed forces and if a war came a calling I'd expect they would be there putting their lives on the line defending the rights of all Americans.
Perhaps, but some of them would intentionally get pregnant to keep from deploying. Seen this happen quite often.
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