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re: No Mega Millions winner, Pot now at 1.6 Billion

Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:10 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:10 am to
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It’s 702 million after taxes


The Mega Millions site has the lump sum at $904MM. That's $570MM after federal taxes only.
This post was edited on 10/20/18 at 8:12 am
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
4295 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:11 am to
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Aren't there around 300 million possible combinations of numbers? So technically, you could buy every possible combination and come out ahead. 


It takes approx five seconds to fill out each card, so you'd need almost 28 years just to mark the bubbles on the game tickets. You'd also use up the national supply of special lottery paper and lottery-machine printing ink well before all your tickets could be printed out.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6504 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:11 am to
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Aren't there around 300 million possible combinations of numbers? So technically, you could buy every possible combination and come out ahead.


Sweet I'll just put it on my amex black
This post was edited on 10/20/18 at 8:12 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:12 am to
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You'd also use up the national supply of special lottery paper and lottery-machine printing ink well before all your tickets could be printed out.



It's far too much for one person to buy, but I'm confident 300+ million tickets will be bought across the country.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:12 am to
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quote:
It’s 702 million after taxes
Also wrong.




Whatever the number is it is an utter fraud.

$1.6 billion!

That's like summing up all of your mortgage payments and saying that is what your house is worth.

Then take out another whack for taxes.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:13 am to
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the expected value of a ticket is now positive


Only if you do the calculation based on the current pot and drawing, and not the drawings required to get the pot this high.

Otherwise, it is always negative.
This post was edited on 10/20/18 at 8:13 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88412 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:13 am to
It's about 540 if you live in LA
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71827 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:13 am to
Did you account for marginal rates? Huh?

Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:13 am to
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You'd also use up the national supply of special lottery paper and lottery-machine printing ink well before all your tickets could be printed out.
now this is the part where you're just making shite up.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88412 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:14 am to
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$1.6 billion!

That's like summing up all of your mortgage payments and saying that is what your house is worth.
It's the gross worth of the pot if you take the annuity. I wouldn't call the fraud but it certainly paints the rosiest picture possible.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:15 am to
I'm in the "take the annuity to protect me from myself" camp
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:16 am to
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Only if you do the calculation based on the current pot and drawing, and not the drawings required to get the pot this high.

Otherwise, it is always negative.


Well yeah, you're not obligated to play every drawing though.

Thisnis what those people in Michigan and Massachusetts would do on the state lotteries - wait until the expected value was positive and then buy hundreds of thousands dollars worth of tickets.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131668 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:17 am to
Nope. I am correct. It’s 702.8 after taxes in Louisiana.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:18 am to
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Did you account for marginal rates? Huh?


, your federal tax effective rate is like .369999%. Those lower tax brackets are barely a blip.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:18 am to
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Nope. I am correct. It’s 702.8 after taxes in Louisiana.




You're not correct. Trust me.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132615 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:19 am to
Love how we are arguing about winning 1.6 billion
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131668 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:19 am to
The internet says I am
Posted by jackmanusc
Columbia, SC
Member since Apr 2012
3948 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:19 am to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71827 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:19 am to
I know
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141089 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:20 am to
You can figure if you take the lump sum that you would end up with around 25=35%. Still not bad.
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