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re: Nigerian novelist loses out on $2M deal due to suspicions over the use of AI...

Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:07 pm to
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If it's a great book, who cares if it is AI?



What makes it "AI"?

If a human comes up with the ideas, and types it up, but runs it through an AI editor rather than a human one, still having the power to choose what edits are made...is it an "AI" book?


If during the writing process the writer asks an AI editor if a certain sequence makes sense, or uses it to fact check...is it an "AI" book?

AI is a tool. You can let it think for you, or you can make it your servant.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:16 pm to
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Pretty much all of humanity can come up with a “general” outline of a story, like your long form AI prompts. The difference is that a writer can expand that idea.



The devil is in the details.

When I write, I craft the characters, the places, the cadence, the dialogue, etc. it's my story.

I'll run it through chat or grok to proof it for typos and to get reactions, but I lambast it if it tries to make changes or offer its own ideas.

Sometimes I'll tell it to compile certain things, make lists, etc, but it's no different than things you'd ask of an assistant. I liken it a blacksmith using an auto-hammer. It's a time saver. It just needs to be harnessed.


Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:28 pm to
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If it's a great book, who cares if it is AI?


Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
43480 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:34 pm to
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You miss the point. The prompt is the human creation. It's the seed, without it, the AI can produce nothing.


And a 6 year old could come up with some really good prompts. There almost nothing impressive about coming up with interesting prompts.

I read a lot. If i ever found out one of the authors I love was using AI I would 100% boycott that author.

Way too many talented authors out there to spend time reading authors who cheat the creative system.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:54 pm to
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If i ever found out one of the authors I love was using AI


But what is this? When you favorite author used clippy for grammar and spelling check...certainly that was a precursor of AI.

If he asks the AI to tally up the number of the forces he's described in his story and asks if that makes sense to be a force large enough to lay effective siege to the fortress he created, basically using it as a calculator...is that "using AI?"

If it wasn't hand scrawled by torchlight in a dungeon that has never known WiFi, surely there'a some way AI has touched it.


I completely understand not wanting the ideas crafted by AI...but for functionary purposes?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
43480 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 1:36 pm to
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But what is this? When you favorite author used clippy for grammar and spelling check...certainly that was a precursor of AI.


No I'm not talking about pre AI spell check ad you know that.

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If he asks the AI to tally up the number of the forces he's described in his story and asks if that makes sense to be a force large enough to lay effective siege to the fortress he created, basically using it as a calculator...is that "using AI?"


That is 100% using AI. He's having AI take his creative idea and tell him if it makes sense. That's not simply a calculator. That to me rolls into the creativity aspect of it. Good editors are part of the creative process as well, I do not want the feedback of human ideas coming from AI because once they take that feedback then it's an AI idea. A human editor is going to get paid and more than likely get an editing credit in the book.

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If it wasn't hand scrawled by torchlight in a dungeon that has never known WiFi, surely there'a some way AI has touched it.


Well this just isn't true.

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I completely understand not wanting the ideas crafted by AI...but for functionary purposes?


Depends on the function I guess. I want it having literally zero influence over anything story wise or true editing.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 1:38 pm to
“The Prince and His Money”

That’s a classic!
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
3910 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 1:41 pm to
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If it's a great book, who cares if it is AI?


I can tell by the reactions to this obviously true and correct post that a lot of people are woefully unprepared for what's coming.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6746 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 2:06 pm to
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I would not want to read an AI book...


Most people want to relate to the author, a book 100% written by the author or maybe the help of another actual person feels authentic. Using AI, I don't care how much work was involved by the "author" is not something that interests me at all. Even fictional books you can feel connected to the author. I actually have authors where I've enjoyed their books that I have connected to via email or social media, usually lesser-known ones.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 3:17 pm to
It's for the same reason Milli Vanilli's musical career was over when they got caught lip synching. The songs were still solid but the music wasn't authentic and created by them.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135006 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 3:22 pm to
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The songs were still solid but the music wasn't authentic and created by them.



I mean, PLENTY of singers sing music other people wrote and created.

Milli Vanilli just didn't do either.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 4:00 pm to
When looking at X you can tell when an account is from Nigeria.

Lots of low IQ posts coming from there.


Posted by icecreamsnowball
Member since Mar 2025
1566 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:41 am to
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Your gonna pick up a fiction book, that you know isnt a real story, but yet wouldn't read it because a fictional person wrote it?
do you think fictional people write fiction books? That doesn’t make any sense.

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If reading is your thing, not reading a great book because of AI is absurd...but whatever
No, it isn’t absurd. It’s absurd to be perfectly fine with removing the human element of writing a book.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4367 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:08 am to
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If it's a good story, what does it matter?


Can't copyright AI generated content.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
7536 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:20 am to
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you think fictional people write fiction books? That doesn’t make any sense.



AI is a fictional person. Not real, fake, artificial..etc.

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removing the human element of writing a book.


Every day in your life, you are consuming ai that is aided by human involvement. Humans are still involved. The writer can get ideas and make any changes that fit his style and thoughts.

Movies, music, television etc ALL use voice overs, auto tune, Ai space scenes, explosions, etc etc etc

I get the thought process, I really do. But you wouldn't know, and still thoroughly enjoy it, if a fictional book story is your thing. I sure wouldn't demand some guy being auto dictated by Ai voice recognition, over having AI help with the actual storyline

All good man
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