re: Nice try, NASA

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Flatness is observed.

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But it's not

I can say the earth is a square just as easily and claim "ITS OBSERVED THO LULZ" and it be equally true.

You're the one claiming every photo ever taken of the earth from space, or simply from an airplane or satellite, is fake. Same with every scientific observation of the earth and our solar system throughout history. And all because "money"

YOU have the high bar to meet, nobody else

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Roundness is not observed.

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Do you expect to be able to measure the curve of the earth in your back yard?

We observe roundness everywhere we look because we cannot see every place on earth at once. Have you ever been to the beach? You can't see Africa from Florida. Hell, you can't even see Cuba from Key West. Have you ever been in a plane? The higher you get, the further you see. Strange eh? And you can even see the curve of the horizon from left to right. And where the frick does the sun go each night?

You have to invent optical illusions and nonsensical geometry to explain these observations on a flat earth.

Things fall to the ground here on earth. The more massive they are, the harder they fall. Something as large as the earth, it makes perfect sense that it would "fall" into itself and make a sphere, the shape with the smallest ratio of surface area to volume. We look around in space and everything of decent size is a sphere. Test after test after test, everything is a damned sphere. And things orbit other things. Gravity. The same simple explanation, and it all makes perfect sense. All of the planets, including earth, revolve around the sun with extreme predictability. This you can verify in your back yard.

Why would you insist that the earth is different than every other planet, given that it is clearly of sufficient size to pull itself into a ball like all the other planets, and that its position in relation to the sun is predicted exactly like all the other planets, and that this matches our observations that we cannot see China from the US?

Why do we insist that the earth is flat, even though that is contrary to absolutely everything else that we observe?

Why do we insist that the earth is special?

The earth is not special.

It is you that is "special", flat-earther.

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who said anything about my backyard

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That is implied by your claim that you cannot observe the curve of the earth. Because if you leave your back yard, the earth's curvature becomes evident.

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That's what this is really about. You have a religious belief. It is not supported by experimental science.

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I perform an experiment every single night as I watch the sun set. Sure enough that sumbitch hides somewhere that I cannot see every night.

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We can go prove it wrong.

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What are you going to prove wrong?

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Gaggle

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People like you shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Or drive.

You sound like an uneducated hick with zero knowledge other than what some YouTube video tells you.

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No I don't. That characterization is all you have.

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Well if you really believe in a flat earth then at the very least you have zero clue about basic geometry and you have extremely poor spatial visualization skills.

You also have to deny the working principles of satellites and the services that they provide every day. GPS, TV, internet, etc. All of that stuff works by some mechanism that I suppose only the elites know about and instead of the truth they give us peons an extremely rational explanation for their operation which fits the model of the world which we can verify with our own eyes.

You are calling general relativity, possibly the most thoroughly-tested theory ever, a pile of trash, because the ground looks flat to you.

I think "uneducated hick with zero knowledge" is a fair characterization.

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Well if you really believe in a flat earth then at the very least you have zero clue about basic geometry and you have extremely poor spatial visualization skills.

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No, the geometry says it flat. I have incredible spatial reasoning.

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You also have to deny the working principles of satellites and the services that they provide every day. GPS, TV, internet, etc.

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They are not in space.

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All of that stuff works by some mechanism that I suppose only the elites know about 

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That is LITERALLY the case. There is a small "expert" class and they are the only ones who know the truth. They were sent to the finest schools, and have our best interests at heart, just like the bishops and high priests of the middle ages. But YOU cannot test it yourself. There is strong pressure, and you were educated from birth, and of course you don't want to be a HERETIC tinfoil crazy hick moron idiot, so you just accept it. You are exactly like someone from the middle ages who believes religious voodoo.

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instead of the truth they give us peons an extremely rational explanation for their operation which fits the model of the world which we can verify with our own eyes.

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it's really not that rational. The spinning ball at thousand mph holding water together, also rotating around the sun, and always making perfect day and night drifting through space. You see the sun set. You see the sun go down. If you wake up tomorrow in a box, and you look up and see a light slowly moving above you and around in a circle. And you feel no motion. Are you going to assume you are rotating around the light? Of course not. The rational, simple Ockham's razor is what we all actually see and say we see. The sun going down.

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You are calling general relativity, possibly the most thoroughly-tested theory ever, a pile of trash, because the ground looks flat to you.

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I think "uneducated hick with zero knowledge" is a fair characterization.

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It's incorrect. And this all undermines the idea that is so foolish and crazy. If it was you could just show it. And there wouldn't be such a viciousness to defend and defame and discredit. You could just be like here, idiot. Done. But instead it's a pile of crappy arguments. What about these NASA pictures, what about eclipses, what about satellites, what about sunsets. There's not a good one. And that's why these threads go. The round earth arguments are AWFUL and often based in complete lies. Why are they fricking lying? I mean NASA's main anti flat earth video has as one of its few main points, Aristothanes experiment from ancient Greece which is complete bunk, totally impossible, completely unverifiable, has never and can't be repeated. Then I hear what about radar it runs out of range because round earth, except whoops radio waves run across the ocean and entire world and have since the early 1900s. Why is every argument so bad? There's not a good one that doesn't fail under scrutiny, or one that is testable. And if you look at flat earth there is a good one. And you can test it.

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No, the geometry says it flat.

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I'm talking about the geometry of the stars. It simply does not work in the FE model.

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I have incredible spatial reasoning.

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You don't seem to understand the three dimensional location of stars and how they would appear if the earth was flat vs spherical. You also don't seem to grasp that satellites are impossible in the FE model.

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They are not in space.

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Then where are they? If they are not in space then they are burning an impossible amount of fuel to move the way that we can verify that they move with our own eyes. Trillions and trillions of dollars worth of fuel just to keep up the lie huh?

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That is LITERALLY the case. There is a small "expert" class and they are the only ones who know the truth. They were sent to the finest schools, and have our best interests at heart, just like the bishops and high priests of the middle ages. But YOU cannot test it yourself. There is strong pressure, and you were educated from birth, and of course you don't want to be a HERETIC tinfoil crazy hick moron idiot, so you just accept it. You are exactly like someone from the middle ages who believes religious voodoo.

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it's really not that rational. The spinning ball at thousand mph holding water together, also rotating around the sun, and always making perfect day and night drifting through space. You see the sun set. You see the sun go down. If you wake up tomorrow in a box, and you look up and see a light slowly moving above you and around in a circle. And you feel no motion. Are you going to assume you are rotating around the light? Of course not. The rational, simple Ockham's razor is what we all actually see and say we see. The sun going down.

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Hilarious that you bring up Occam's Razor given how many wacky workarounds the FE model requires. Inexplicable shifting of the sun and moon, no explanation for the operation of satellites, no attempt at explaining the stars' paths in the night sky, domes, hundreds of thousands of people having to be "in" on the deceit including enemy nations, invented optical illusions to explain things disappearing over the horizon, and on and on and on. All of it is explained simply and elegantly by gravity.

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It's incorrect. And this all undermines the idea that is so foolish and crazy. If it was you could just show it. And there wouldn't be such a viciousness to defend and defame and discredit. You could just be like here, idiot. Done. But instead it's a pile of crappy arguments. What about these NASA pictures, what about eclipses, what about satellites, what about sunsets. There's not a good one. And that's why these threads go.

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These threads go because some people are incredibly stupid and because some people like to troll.

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The round earth arguments are AWFUL and often based in complete lies.

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Why are they fricking lying?

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About..?

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I mean NASA's main anti flat earth video has as one of its few main points, Aristothanes experiment from ancient Greece which is complete bunk, totally impossible, completely unverifiable, has never and can't be repeated.

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Assuming you mean Eratosthenes. And if you believe what you just said, then that goes to show that, as I said, you have zero clue about geometry.

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Then I hear what about radar it runs out of range because round earth, except whoops radio waves run across the ocean and entire world and have since the early 1900s.

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So let's add wave propagation to the list of things that you do not understand.

I dabble in RF, and from my own experimentation I can verify that achieving line of sight between two antennas (by raising them higher off the ground of course) makes a world of difference.

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Why is every argument so bad?

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I can only assume that the globe earth "arguments" sound bad because you are a complete moron.

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And if you look at flat earth there is a good one. And you can test it.

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How the frick are you testing flat earth? It fails every test imaginable, obviously because it is simply stupid.

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How the frick are you testing flat earth?

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Locate miles distance to object over flat surface (water, salt flat, plain). Check geometry for amount of curvature that should be present. Zoom in with Nikon P900 and see the object.

Here's 21 miles of laser over great salt lake. Should be 250 feet of curve according to the geometry but there is not.

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Flat earth proofs on bitchute LINK

But don't just believe the videos. Take a Nikon to the beach and check out how far you can zoom.

All your attacks about how dumb I am. Geez man. If a stupid crazy guy is yelling nonsense on the street and you argue with him for hours then there's something up with you too. Something's not sitting right.

That's cool you're a sniper. I don't know what your magic computer is doing. But I've seen testimony say they don't account for it. There are plenty of good pilot testimonies if you seek them out. But YouTube and Google really censor and delete it hard. LINK

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Can you next please describe what direction is south?

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You’re arguing with a flat-earther.

Obviously the map falls apart when you measure flight time around the Antarctic Circle.