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re: Nice try, NASA

Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:24 am to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:24 am to
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Here's 21 miles of laser over great salt lake. Should be 250 feet of curve according to the geometry but there is not.

LINK
Funny he reported his location in degrees latitude.

I was in the thread where refraction was explained to you. There is a reason they did this in January. Do you know the reason? The beam also diffracts quite a bit over that distance. Do you know how that might impact the result?
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But don't just believe the videos.
Oh I believe the videos. I just also understand the effects at play.
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Take a Nikon to the beach and check out how far you can zoom.
How far you can zoom and see a boat depends on the season and time of day. Do you know why? Do you also know why regardless of those variables you still can't see Cancun from Grand Isle, even with a very powerful telescope?
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All your attacks about how dumb I am. Geez man. If a stupid crazy guy is yelling nonsense on the street and you argue with him for hours then there's something up with you too. Something's not sitting right.


Whether you really are this stupid or you're just trolling, either way it's entertaining.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29103 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:47 am to
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I suppose all long-range and ELR shooters are just in on the conspiracy.
Of course they are because the ground looks flat to me and I don't question why people shoot lasers over water in the a-hole of winter or why we can still see the laser's light when it's pointed hundreds of feet to the left or right of the camera because I don't understand shite about shite. --Gaggle, probably
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13437 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 6:19 am to
This has been fun. A couple of utter nitwits debunking logic and scientific evidence for seventeen pages. If facts are inconvenient, simply ignore or distort them.


Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 6:22 am to
It’s nice to see people starting to wake up to the fact NASA is a total fraud
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:15 am to
Solid troll, otherwise seek therapy bro
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:40 am to
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was in the thread where refraction was explained to you. There is a reason they did this in January. Do you know the reason? The beam also diffracts quite a bit over that distance. Do you know how that might impact the result?
What? You think the laser "refracted" over the curve of the earth? You think lasers bend? Just tell us what you're saying.
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How far you can zoom and see a boat depends on the season and time of day. Do you know why?
Yes. Why are you asking totally unrelated questions?

Ok so you can see a laser go 21 miles straight across and no curvature, but do you know why it rains sometimes? Huh? I bet you don't know when lasers were invented. You've never even heard of geometry. I bet you're not even familiar with a concept called barometric pressure. Why don't you just tell us all you don't know Jack shite about photosynthesis. And you've made it clear that your were never educated on soil composition. Go learn about different wavelengths and get back to us. God I love arguing like you. This is great. I don't have to make any points.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 11:42 am
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:56 am to
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Guys, This is simpler than all of that. If that flat earth model was correct a compass would not work.
How can you possibly say that? That's a complete non-sequitur. Of course there is an explanation for magnets under flat earth. These arguments are so fricking terrible. Magnets work, so the only possible explanation is the earth is round and spinning and flying through space. That doesn't make any sense.
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Also, ships would not “sink” below the horizon as they steer away.
They don't. You need to watch the videos. Take your camera to the beach. You can zoom in in those "sunk" ships and they are horizon level. If you watch them they do not dip below the water line, they stay at horizon level

You are exactly why I believe it. Your explanations are lies and bullshite
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 11:57 am
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:11 pm to
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Assuming you mean Eratosthenes. And if you believe what you just said, then that goes to show that, as I said, you have zero clue about geometry.
This is 100% proof you are full of shite, have zero objectivity or interest, and are just throwing accusations of dumbness.

Look at the experiment and read it. Ancient Greece. Two people in separate places at the exact same time both looking at light in a well. How could they have verified that? Where is the peer review? Why hasn't it been repeated? Did you know light rays aren't parallel, they diverge and converge, which makes the experiment bunk aside from being totally impossible and unverifiable. All of this is indisputable. Explain to me clearly how this experiment could possibly be verified and legit. You can't. You didn't even consider it. You just accused me of not knowing geometry. It's very dishonest. And this is the best NASA has to prove round earth.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 12:12 pm
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7149 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:16 pm to
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No one other than Gummint / VIP officials are allowed Antarctica access since 1958. (Strictly enforced.) Admiral Byrd himself admitted NO person has seen the entire "continent" in his famous Longines TV interview (it's still online).


Bc it’s barren and people would literally die, are you being serious?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7149 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:26 pm to
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Yeah and I'm waiting forever for real tangible evidence of round earth and space.


Satellites, internet, GPS, weather, day/night, length of daylight in a day in different parts of the world, eclipses, gravity, sun rises and sets, stars, other planets, time zones, pictures of earth

The evidence is really astounding and irrefutable. It’s amazing Eratosthenes correctly measured the circumference of earth using two sticks and measuring the shadow they cast at the same time of the day in various locations, more than 2000 years ago, yet you still have people on the internet communicating through satellites telling you it’s all bs Bc of the way they interpret the Bible, then have the audacity to call you dumb lmfao
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:32 pm to
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Satellites, internet, GPS, weather, day/night, length of daylight in a day in different parts of the world, eclipses, gravity, sun rises and sets, stars, other planets, time zones, pictures of earth
none of those are real tangible evidence. Most of them existed before anyone ever proposed round earth.

It's like this. There is a phenomena like eclipses. You have theoretical explanations for the phenomena. The explanations are not proof in themselves, they are on paper. I have explanations also. Just because you can't think of any others does not mean it's the only explanation. That's not proof.

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It’s amazing Eratosthenes correctly measured the circumference of earth using two sticks and measuring the shadow they cast at the same time of the day in various locations,
This, but sarcastically.
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then have the audacity to call you dumb lmfao
I think I'm being called dumb WAY more than I'm calling anyone else dumb
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29103 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:37 pm to
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What? You think the laser "refracted" over the curve of the earth? You think lasers bend? Just tell us what you're saying.
Of course they can bend, they're just light. Have you never seen a mirage or wavy lines above the road? When the surface is hot, light bends up due to the temperature gradient in the air. When the surface is cold (like in the laser video), light bends down. Do you think lasers are different somehow?
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Yes. Why are you asking totally unrelated questions?


Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:41 pm to
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Of course they can bend, they're just light
But not in ancient Greece

What'd you think of Dr. John D, PhD's laser analysis? He says it's impossible for a laser to bend to Earth's shape.

LINK
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:47 pm to
According to NASA and Korkstand, lasers bend over the invisible curve of the Great salt lake because it's light and light bends. But sunlight comes straight down into wells and doesn't bend and proves round earth. Bravo.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:48 pm to
Dp
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29103 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 1:07 pm to
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Look at the experiment and read it. Ancient Greece. Two people in separate places at the exact same time both looking at light in a well. How could they have verified that?
It was known that on a particular day at a particular time sunlight reached the bottom of a well, every year. Are you saying that because the experimenter himself wasn't there to verify that it did indeed happen again like always, then the experiment is bunk?
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Where is the peer review? Why hasn't it been repeated?

Do you seriously believe this hasn't been repeated thousands of times?
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Did you know light rays aren't parallel
While true, the sun is so far away that the difference is negligible. If the sun were closer as in the FE model, the effect would be much larger and it would be possible to measure it.
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which makes the experiment bunk aside from being totally impossible and unverifiable. All of this is indisputable.

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Explain to me clearly how this experiment could possibly be verified and legit. You can't. You didn't even consider it. You just accused me of not knowing geometry.
I honestly don't know how to explain things more clearly to someone who refuses to accept new knowledge. If the earth were flat and the sun much closer, the geometry of shadows would make that apparent. It would be simple for a flat-earther to prove this. Like dead simple. Yet no one has done it. The calculations vary wildly for the simple fact that they are trying to project a 3d surface onto a 2d one. It's the same reason there are so many types of map projections, dimensions must be distorted in order to do this.

You are acting like you're all about science, going on about repeatable experiments and peer review and such. Problem is you ignore thousands of years of peer review and repeated experiments, all of which confirm that the earth is a globe, and you cling to a model that fails absolutely every test imaginable. It's fricking wacky.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29103 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 1:12 pm to
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According to NASA and Korkstand, lasers bend over the invisible curve of the Great salt lake because it's light and light bends. But sunlight comes straight down into wells and doesn't bend and proves round earth. Bravo.
So now I have to explain this to you? You've never put a stick in the water and observed the bend? Never noticed how it looks straight if you do it at a right angle? Never noticed how a mirage is always in the distance (at a long angle) instead of appearing right under your feet (at a right angle)?

For frick's sake, man, do you not realize how many obviously real phenomenon you have to flat out ignore in order to make FE fit? It's absurd.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 1:13 pm to
Gaggle, last time we had a discussion about refraction you conflated the phenomenon of reflection and refraction and never once reversed course despite an alleged Ivy League pedigree. I think I’d like to see that you understand what refraction actually is before you opine about it.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 1:14 pm to
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So now I have to explain this to you? You've never put a stick in the water and observed the bend? Never noticed how it looks straight if you do it at a right angle? Never noticed how a mirage is always in the distance (at a long angle) instead of appearing right under your feet (at a right angle)?
Are you retarded. You're taking both sides

Ok you're right, light bends.

So

How can the Greek experiment be valid if light bends?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 1:16 pm to
I know how to prove the earth isn't flat. Start with a sniper on a calm day at 500 yards. Zero the rifle. Turn the sniper 90 degrees to shoot on a target 1500 yards away. Have the sniper dial in the proper correction for the curvature of the earth and the coriolis effect to hit at the longer distance. Have the flat earther verify that the scope is properly dialed in for the new target, per the mathematics required for a non flat earth. Neither is allowed to change the dope on the scope after.

Then, have the true believer go stand in front of the target and hand the sniper a full magazine. If the flat earther is correct, they'll be safe, as the corrections for a spherical spinning planet will make the bullet miss.

PROTIP: They won't do it.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 1:31 pm
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