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re: News reporting U-High kid fell overboard
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:18 pm to CatfishJohn
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:18 pm to CatfishJohn
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Yet other western cultures don’t have this problem with much younger drinking ages. Destigmatizing at an early age is a better call.
It’s not the age, but the culture. If we dropped the age, it would probably get a whole lot worse for a bit and then end up leveling out about the same as we have now. We have a shite culture in regard to alcohol and how we treat it, this includes adults.
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Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:19 pm to SirWinston
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This is absolutely correct. It baffles me that anyone could possibly dispute this. He was clearly swimming towards the orange buoy, spotted the shark fin and immediately (and calmly) started swimming away from the buoy.
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Also people are saying that the kids on the boat would have been screaming "shark", but that's why I posted the Reddit thread. Someone with experience on boats that have sharks regularly trailing rightly points out that sharks are dark on top, so even in the daylight it's not easy to spot them from above.
Ill throw out a dispute for you. You are apparently seeing a shark clear as day and are shocked no one else is. This is also the same viewpoint that youre also arguing is that its not easy to see a shark even in daylight. Also, this video is grainy as hell and they have plenty of sets of eyes on the boat watching it all go down without a grainy video lens.
The kid in the water could have possibly seen a shark fin. I doubt it. Its incredibly hard to see in water at night and virtually impossible to see when you are eye level treading.
Dunno how many people in here have actually been on any types of water at night but its a completely different animal compared to the day
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:27 pm to Deactived
Thank you. I would defer to the hundred of kids looking down and not the kid in the water. No way you’re seeing a shark at night while treading water.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:31 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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LSUAngelHere1
stfu you miserable see you next tuesday
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:32 pm to Deactived
The dude who constantly posts pics of himself on here is throwing out wild theories
Who could’ve guessed
Who could’ve guessed
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:36 pm to jorconalx
Good lord, this thread has devolved since last night. We all have our theories. But I think what we can all agree on is this is a tragedy none of us can grasp and none of us can mend. Unfortunately this young man will be a reminder to my kids that one poor choice can not only change your life forever, it can end it in seconds. I hope he went quick however he went and I hope his family is able to find some kind of peace by the grace of God.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:37 pm to Dam Guide
I agree with that
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:40 pm to tigerbaby17
This is reality. While we may believe the company is liable for whatever the reason is that someone does, this was not in our COUNTRY and legally, physically, etc. this rendors pretty much all of our opinions useless and leaves us under the jurisdiction of a country 27 miles by 9 miles wide with a GDP of $2bucketsofpiss, and a population under 100k. This absolutely means that they are not going to be experts or even good at a shitload of things we take for granted.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 7:46 pm to Oates Mustache
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So let me get this straight, the guy in the water, bobbing up and down with the wave action could clearly see a shark so he swam the other way
Have you ever been in the water on the surface close to a shark ? With experience ?
You can see the damn things.
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But 300 people …
They were not on all one side of the vessel.
Now let’s address the “ they should have let some of those drunk kids from BR run they the vessel”.
bullshite. That boat more than likely has Twin-Disc clutches. You have to wait a couple of seconds between shifts. Forward-Neutral- Reverse.
It’s a 140 x 38 something boat.
There was not a kid or “ daddy captain “ on board that could have run that boat competently. It’s not an outboard. You have to have to “aim” a boat like that and anticipate where it will go.
Whether a shark ate him or not he was swept out to sea. Look at the geography of Nassau harbor. It’s doesn’t matter what way the tide is going. It’s moving. There is a three foot tidal range there.
Lsuangel go cut bait.
I have read some of the dumbest shite ever in this thread.
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 5/30/23 at 7:48 pm to Oates Mustache
Yes because the shark was really close to him and it was standing out against the hull of the ship. Plus the life circle thingy put the shark right in his line of site and he clearly and inexplicably ceases swimming TOWARDS the buoy and reverses course at the exact moment that the shark is shifting and moving towards him.
The shark reversing course and it's fin causing disturbance coincides PERFECTLY with young Cam reversing course. Why else would he swim away from the orange buoy that he was making good progress towards?
The shark reversing course and it's fin causing disturbance coincides PERFECTLY with young Cam reversing course. Why else would he swim away from the orange buoy that he was making good progress towards?
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:11 pm to Bigfishchoupique
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That boat more than likely has Twin-Disc clutches. You have to wait a couple of seconds between shifts. Forward-Neutral- Reverse.
This is actually a good point. It’s not operating like a bass boat.
Reversing is also slow because you have to slow your forward momentum, and in reverse you don’t have a ton of steering control due to the rudder. It’s a main reason that there are tug boats in harbors.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:17 pm to SirWinston
If this video clip is the last time anyone saw the kid, then maybe the shark theory can be plausible. But who said no one saw him after this video was stopped? For the shark theory to be accurate this has to be the very last moment any one saw him.
I’m sure there are many videos taken on cellphones of the kids that were on that side of the boat.
I’m sure there are many videos taken on cellphones of the kids that were on that side of the boat.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:24 pm to Choupique19
You would not see the shark from the water. Maybe a splash. You also have the lights on the boat above you that would make it even harder to see on the water with that in your field of vision.
I do see the water swirl a little and it seems to not be in a natural direction.
It could be a shark and it could be something else. It could even be a line to the thing they threw in not sure never seen one like that.
Now I am sure sharks could have done this and you never know if he just drowned. It surprises me if that is the case that he got away so far from the boat that they could not get him in before drowning.
I do see the water swirl a little and it seems to not be in a natural direction.
It could be a shark and it could be something else. It could even be a line to the thing they threw in not sure never seen one like that.
Now I am sure sharks could have done this and you never know if he just drowned. It surprises me if that is the case that he got away so far from the boat that they could not get him in before drowning.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:26 pm to SirWinston
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Why else would he swim away from the orange buoy that he was making good progress towards?
Have you been in the water at night with decent sized waves and tried to see anything on the surface? You can’t see squat.
Personally I think chances are higher considering the map posted pages back of where this happened, that the kid decided the boat wasn’t stopping, could see the lights onshore, and made the boneheaded decision to try and swim towards the lights not realizing how close he was to the life preserver.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:31 pm to LSUAngelHere1
Damn. 13-15 seconds it looks a lot like a hammerhead profile.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:33 pm to Cymry Teigr
Don’t rule out his own imagination in the
Moment. Perhaps he saw something in the water- something real- swirl or splash next to the
Life ring and he panicked. That water is filled with marine life. Doesn’t mean it’s automatically a threat. But anyone in the water who’s ever had a fish swirl next to them experiences the same primal “WTF” was that reaction. A sober person experienced in such events may respond rationally, but most people who are sober- let alone inebriated- are going to go into flight
Mode.
Moment. Perhaps he saw something in the water- something real- swirl or splash next to the
Life ring and he panicked. That water is filled with marine life. Doesn’t mean it’s automatically a threat. But anyone in the water who’s ever had a fish swirl next to them experiences the same primal “WTF” was that reaction. A sober person experienced in such events may respond rationally, but most people who are sober- let alone inebriated- are going to go into flight
Mode.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:37 pm to tigerinthebueche
Exactly. Different circumstances and vastly different weather conditions, but I spent hours in the water in August 1979 after the yacht I was crewing on capsized and sunk during the Fastnet race. Your imagination runs rampant with everything that bumps against you.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:41 pm to Cymry Teigr
If you are telling the truth, and since this is a very famous event in sailing, you should start a thread and tell us about it.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:45 pm to SirWinston
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Yes because the shark was really close to him and it was standing out against the hull of the ship. Plus the life circle thingy
This got 8 upvotes
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:45 pm to Lsupimp
Yeah I’d like to hear more about that too
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