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re: News is complaining about hospitals being under staffed

Posted on 11/23/20 at 9:20 am to
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Posted on 11/23/20 at 9:20 am to
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The entire response to COVID has been nothing but one big self inflicted wound.



Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/23/20 at 9:26 am to
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The hospital just implemented incentive pay to therapists/ICU nurses who pick up extra shifts due to low staffing numbers.


Are they back at $250 IP for the 4th shift and $350 for each additional shift? When you start stacking IP and OT the hourly gets pretty impressive.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27574 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 9:31 am to
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While hospitals that have temporarily closed some med-surg floors may have an overabundance of med-surg nurses they may be very limited on unit nurses qualified to be on an ICU/COVID floor. Above and beyond the finite number of these nurses in the area to begin with some are taking travel nursing gigs because they pay so much and many others got burned out on the 5, 6 or even 7 shift weeks they were doing early on and now are balking at anything over a standard 3 shift week.


Get that logical shite right the frick out of here.

This second surge will have burnout to deal with it will be a huge factor that the first did not have.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7689 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 9:32 am to
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ICU qualified shortfalls


So train nurses to be ICU nurses?
It's just nursing.
How fricking complicated can it be?

In chemical and refining industry. If we have potential strike coming up. People cross train. We deal with it.

These hospitals are a joke. Adapt for fricks sake.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 11/23/20 at 9:35 am to
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Are they back at $250 IP for the 4th shift and $350 for each additional shift? When you start stacking IP and OT the hourly gets pretty impressive.



I believe she said therapists will get an additional $21 per hour plus the overtime/nightshift/weekend shift differential they normally receive.

It does add up quickly.
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
8910 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 9:47 am to
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Haven't hospitals had 8 months and essentially a blank check to figure this shite out?


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Obtuse1
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Even a blank check won't fix the nursing shortage particularly the ICU/COVID unit qualified shortfalls. Most hospitals run a lot of units/floors understaffed. It doesn't mean they change the nurse/patient ratio but they pay overtime for a lot more shifts and or pull from the pool.

While hospitals that have temporarily closed some med-surg floors may have an overabundance of med-surg nurses they may be very limited on unit nurses qualified to be on an ICU/COVID floor. Above and beyond the finite number of these nurses in the area to begin with some are taking travel nursing gigs because they pay so much and many others got burned out on the 5, 6 or even 7 shift weeks they were doing early on and now are balking at anything over a standard 3 shift week.



Unreal. When a REAL emergency happened (such as when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor), our country busted its arse to be ready for a response in less than 8 friggin' months. You can train a lot of triage staff and build a lot of hospital buildings & equipment in 8 months.

This is how I know all of this is a big, overblown scam. Yes, we are in a pandemic. No, it's apparently not that bad or we would have really taken this seriously and invested a lot more in taking care of the sick while the vaccine was being made.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4636 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 9:48 am to
When hospitals talk about how much money they lost,like the $300 million mentioned, that is based on their charges,not their costs.
If a hospital administrator’s mouth is moving they are lying.
Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
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Member since Mar 2019
3098 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 9:49 am to
COVID death.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10097 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 9:54 am to
They can't burn their money on staff because they need it for executive bonuses. Bastards
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/23/20 at 9:58 am to
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Unreal. When a REAL emergency happened...


You can't force people to be nurses and you can't train an RN in 8 months.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:00 am to
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You can't force people to be nurses and you can't train an RN in 8 months.


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bullshite..I can spend 1 night at a Holiday Inn Express and become anything I want
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10097 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:01 am to
Frick the hospitals. Bonuses for nurses but nothing for auxiliary departments like respiratory, radiology and laboratory who are also working their asses off.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29554 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:07 am to
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Frick the hospitals. Bonuses for nurses but nothing for auxiliary departments like respiratory, radiology and laboratory who are also working their asses off.

CMS cut payments to ER doctors and hospitalists by 6%. Meanwhile NPs, PAs, and RNs are getting paid out the arse.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27574 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:13 am to

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ICU qualified shortfalls


So train nurses to be ICU nurses?
It's just nursing.
How fricking complicated can it be? [/quote]


“You serious Clark” gif is needed.

Nurses are not interchangeable. Especially when dealing with critical patients. You can’t force a pre op nurse into an ICU. You’re asking the nurse to kill someone. Many different skill sets within one profession.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27574 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:19 am to
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Unreal. When a REAL emergency happened (such as when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor), our country busted its arse to be ready for a response in less than 8 friggin' months. You can train a lot of triage staff and build a lot of hospital buildings & equipment in 8 months.


One is medical and Pearl Harbor was existential. Apples and oranges. But I can stick with medical. 1941 medicine and 2020 medicine does not compare. The triage systems you speak of were essentially streamlined 10 years later in Korea. They were foreign in 1941.

You are RIGHT in that the military is the only one that can mobilize that quickly, and you are seeing them in places like El Paso. Or at least a military model is used. As in OEMs etc.
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
3637 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:22 am to
Mine works at UNC hospital. They broke AF, even with the money they get for each covid related death.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37045 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:26 am to
They can’t even get any breaks to make tik toks

The horror
Posted by Whodat28
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2016
773 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 11:07 am to
What’s funny is how many nurse friends of mine say “the hospitals are being overrun” but yet everytime I get on Instagram they are traveling the world on vacation. How can those two be true if the hospitals are being overrun?
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/23/20 at 11:09 am to
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The Biden welfare machine is about to crank up


Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
63973 posts
Posted on 11/23/20 at 11:12 am to
ER was 2 nurses short last night
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