re: New Yorker Article: Everyone Is Cheating Their Way Through College

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Yes, some of those kids may have a wider depth of knowledge in certain fields but do you know where they're lacking right now? Basic social interactions. Front facing skills in interacting with the public. Emotional intelligence.

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Your view of this generation is over-generalized and apoplectic. You take an extreme and apply it broadly. All you left out was complaining about the way they cut their hair and their taste in music.

But that's the tone of this board, a bunch of old farts in the backwoods acting like time should stand still while they sit in a rockin' chair chawin' tabacky. You know who else misses out on social interactions? Backwoods bumpkins that act like the world outside their tunnel vision is evil.

My dad is a farmer and went from stacking peanuts with a pitchfork to self-driving tractors and drones, and as far as I can tell the world hasn't ended. It made in exponentially more profitable with every innovation.

I see kids playing sports, swimming, playing music, singing, dancing, hanging out, playing airsoft, scouting, riding horses, shooting, skiing, laughing, having a great time with friends like we all did.

Are there kids that sit at home and never socialize? Sure. We had those in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s too.

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I have the social skills to be able to interact with the public on a daily basis without having a full on meltdown. I can present a case in a case consultation setting without losing my shite if a coworker suggests an intervention I didn't think of. I can sit with a client that is overwhelmed with emotion and not "freak out" over it.

Yes, some of those kids may have a wider depth of knowledge in certain fields but do you know where they're lacking right now? Basic social interactions. Front facing skills in interacting with the public. Emotional intelligence.

I supervise interns, I literally had to sit in with an intern (in a Masters Counseling program) and help them contact different facilites to coordinate wrap around services for a client. It was like pulling teeth. And then they cried because they felt I was "too harsh" on them for making them do it.

There's a trade off with relying on something like AI for everything, including your social interactions, which ALOT of young people do these days.

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You're not lying. Had a staff accountant send an email with "yadda yadda yadda" in it because I said "Ask them what workbooks, invoices, yadda yadda, are available and let's start reviewing". Luckily it was just a vendor, but jeez Louise I was frustrated.

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Your view of this generation is over-generalized and apoplectic. You take an extreme and apply it broadly. All you left out was complaining about the way they cut their hair and their taste in music.

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But that's the tone of this board, a bunch of old farts in the backwoods acting like time should stand still while they sit in a rockin' chair chawin' tabacky. You know who else misses out on social interactions? Backwoods bumpkins that act like the world outside their tunnel vision is evil.

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Your view of this generation is over-generalized and apoplectic. You take an extreme and apply it broadly. All you left out was complaining about the way they cut their hair and their taste in music.

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You’re wrong here. Teen and young adults today are lacking in simple social skills. Does that mean every single one, nope. Most have no clue how to talk to anyone but their friends. Scared to order food, ask for an oil change, etc.


Again, it’s not every single one but the issue is bigger than you realize. In the end, it doesn’t matter. No one gives a frick what you, me or anyone else thinks. Too many people think they are “special” when they nothing more than lint.

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Your view of this generation is over-generalized and apoplectic. You take an extreme and apply it broadly. All you left out was complaining about the way they cut their hair and their taste in music.

But that's the tone of this board, a bunch of old farts in the backwoods acting like time should stand still while they sit in a rockin' chair chawin' tabacky. You know who else misses out on social interactions? Backwoods bumpkins that act like the world outside their tunnel vision is evil.

My dad is a farmer and went from stacking peanuts with a pitchfork to self-driving tractors and drones, and as far as I can tell the world hasn't ended. It made in exponentially more profitable with every innovation.

I see kids playing sports, swimming, playing music, singing, dancing, hanging out, playing airsoft, scouting, riding horses, shooting, skiing, laughing, having a great time with friends like we all did.

Are there kids that sit at home and never socialize? Sure. We had those in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s too.

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The bulk of my caseload during the school year is teenagers and young adults, I'd be willing to be I have a better pulse on this then a lot of "old geezers". I'm making the generalization because the issue is large and vast enough that it should be made at this point. It's a generational issue.

You have absolutely no good grasp on the social decline there has been for today's teenagers because of social media and AI from your comments. I regularly have parents who come into my office with concerns for their kids because they're struggling with social interaction and AI. And almost every single one of them it is because of their reliance on AI and social media for outside of school interaction.

There's a reason school systems are beginning to ban cell phones in the classrooms.

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TRUST ME, WE frickING KNOW

Trust me.

If there was anyone that I was like, "hey this douche bag is cheating and he is really really stupid actually", it would be you.




You got me there I guess. Not the sharpest cookie in the jar over here. But I get by.

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Sorry, I am in a bad mood today. You pissed me off last night with the race stuff.

Im over it.

Anywho, everyone weather ok?

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You’re wrong here. Teen and young adults today are lacking in simple social skills. Does that mean every single one, nope. Most have no clue how to talk to anyone but their friends. Scared to order food, ask for an oil change, etc. Again, it’s not every single one but the issue is bigger than you realize. In the end, it doesn’t matter. No one gives a frick what you, me or anyone else thinks. Too many people think they are “special” when they nothing more than lint.

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This is absolutely true in my experience. And to be honest, I don’t give a shite what people do in their free time, but a lot of young people can’t perform their job duties because they’re absolutely terrified of people to people interaction, whether that be in person, on the phone, or video call

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It isn’t as if cheating is new. But now, as one student put it, “the ceiling has been blown off.” Who could resist a tool that makes every assignment easier with seemingly no consequences? After spending the better part of the past two years grading AI-generated papers, Troy Jollimore, a poet, philosopher, and Cal State Chico ethics professor, has concerns. “Massive numbers of students are going to emerge from university with degrees, and into the workforce, who are essentially illiterate,” he said.

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Imagine cheating your way through a philosophy degree.

I essentially got my degree and career by studying my arse off and taking multiple choice or show your work type tests. That is, I learned the material, proved it, and apply not only what I learned but how I learned it on a daily basis in my professional life. The only way around that would have been to try a little less hard, and be ok with C’s instead of A’s

Getting a degree with ChatGPT should basically not be possible. It’s time we separate the degrees that are worth a shite from those that aren’t. There will always be stupid people in the workforce, what we can avoid is having stupid people that have no idea that they are thinking they are owed something. This isn’t an AI problem, it’s a time and financial management problem. People need to realize they are wasting their time and money on worthless degrees before they even begin.

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because they’re absolutely terrified of people to people interaction, whether that be in person, on the phone, or video call

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This is 100% true.

Parents with young kids, force your kids into uncomfortable social situations when they're young. Make them order their own food, make them talk to the doctor themselves at their annual check up, etc. It'll pay off in the long run.

i will say this, using it to explain a very very very difficult engineering concept in a simplified way to understand it is a damn game changer. However i hope they have a textbook open to fact check the bot