re: New York police department is confiscating legal guns from MC members

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Good. Glad they got his gun before he could kill anyone.

That's good police work right there.

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figures a dumbshit who in all likelihood posts in the anti-police threads is all for only the police having guns

This isn't perfect but it's the best I've found.

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1%er defined

NOTE: This is the defininition given in Wiki-pedia, if you belive anything to be an error, please e-mail us and we will check it out.
One Percenters, Gangs and Outlaws.

Motorcycle clubs are often perceived as criminal organizations or, at best, gangs of hoodlums or thugs by traditional society. This perception has been fueled by the movies, popular culture, and highly publicized isolated incidents, the earliest of which was a brawl in Hollister, California in 1947 between members of the Boozefighters MC (motto: a drinking club with a motorcycle problem) and the Pissed Off Bastards MC (precursor to the Hells Angels).
The press asked the American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) to comment, and their response was that 99% of motorcyclists were law-abiding citizens, and the last one percent were outlaws. Thus was born the term, "one percenter".

During the 1940's and 1950's, at rallies and gatherings sponsored by the AMA, prizes were awarded for nicest club uniform, prettiest motorcycle, and so forth. Some clubs, however, rejected the clean-cut image and adopted the "one percenter" moniker, even going so far as to create a diamond (rhombus) shaped patch labeled "1%" to wear on their vests as a badge of honor.

The 1% patch is also used to instill fear and respect from the general public and other motorcyclists. Other clubs wore (and still wear) upside down AMA patches.

*Another practice was to cut their one piece club patches into three or more pieces as a form of protest, which evolved into the current form of three piece colors worn by many MCs today.
One percent clubs point out that the term simply means that they are simply committed to "biking and brotherhood", where riding isn't a weekend activity, but a way of living. These clubs assert that local and national law enforcement agencies have co-opted the term to paint them as criminals.

While it is a fact that individual members of some MCs, and even entire chapters have engaged in felonious behavior, other members and supporters of these clubs insist that these are isolated occurrences and that the clubs, as a whole, are not criminal organizations. They often compare themselves to police departments, wherein the occasional "bad cop" does not make a police department a criminal organization, either.

At least one biker website has a news section devoted to "cops gone bad" to support their point of view.
Many one percenter clubs, including the Hells Angels, sponsor charitable events throughout the year for such causes as Salvation Army shelters and Toys for Tots.


Alternatively, both the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Criminal Intelligence Service Canada (CISC) have designated certain MCs as Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs (OMGs), among them the Pagans, Hells Angels, Outlaws MC, and Bandidos.

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Honestly, it just reminds me of watching The Sopranos and the shite they'd say on there.

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Well if you read it, you'd have seen where 1% originated from.

Hold one on second folks. Cool your jets. Take your feet of the gas pedals

The SCPD told him

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that as a member of the Pagans his only options were to either voluntarily terminate his permit and turn his guns over or his permit would be involuntarily terminated and he would lose all of his guns unable to transfer them to a legal owner.

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Remember, the mantra many you guys always use. Obey the cops and do not question or complain. Blue is always right. So we need to let this drop.

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Blue is lways right

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Wait. Did the police just take the guns or did they enforce a law that states members of criminal gangs can't own guns?

Is it a law problem, a police problem or a gang problem?

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figures a dumb shite who in all likelihood posts in the anti-police threads is all for only the police having guns

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Well, aren't you just completely wrong. I have lots of guns but don't give two shits about some law keeping criminal biker gang members from having them.

The whole premise of the cops just taking the gun or guns is silly. If they did that then they are wrong.

However, it seems more likely that they enforced a law stating that known members of criminal gangs can't own guns. If that's the case, should just ignore the law?

This whole scenario is just speculation without more facts.

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If he's got them legally then he should be able to keep them. Especially since he has no priors. Until he's convicted of a felony then he should be allowed to keep them.

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If only that were the law where he lived

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What kind of half-assed one percenter registers his weapons in the first place?

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