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re: New York City is now calling on all residents to be neighborly and carry Narcan
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:28 am to lsupride87
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:28 am to lsupride87
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Everyone on here for the most part does drugs
And even when they made that drug illegal nobody could stop doing it either, and a shite ton of people died because of the deregulation of the product
Unfortunately, Narcan does not work on those who are posting crazy things on the OT.
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:28 am to More beer please
There will always be junkies. There will always be alcoholics
We have managed to protect people who choose to do the drug of alcohol recreationally
Why shouldn’t we do the same for others?
We have managed to protect people who choose to do the drug of alcohol recreationally
Why shouldn’t we do the same for others?
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:30 am to lsupride87
You keep saying that. Not all drugs are on the same level whether you accept it or not.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:32 am to More beer please
I agree not all drugs are in the same level. Of course not
But alcohol is one of the most destructive drugs out there in terms of what it does to the user in relation to others in the population, yet that is the one we chose to make legal.
But alcohol is one of the most destructive drugs out there in terms of what it does to the user in relation to others in the population, yet that is the one we chose to make legal.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:33 am to More beer please
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You keep saying that. Not all drugs are on the same level whether you accept it or not.
OK, but who gets to define the cutoff point?
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:35 am to tzimme4
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Do they have it in pumpkin spice flavor now that we're in Fall?
Top notch comment.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:35 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:The government, because we all have faith they do great with making decisions for us right?
but who gets to define the cutoff point?
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:35 am to stout
civilized society, we do not live in one.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:36 am to More beer please
quote:
You keep saying that. Not all drugs are on the same level whether you accept it or not.
These people think fentanyl and weed are the same...
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:38 am to dgnx6
quote:No, these people think the opposite.
These people think fentanyl and weed are the same...
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:40 am to Crowknowsbest
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OK, but who gets to define the cutoff point?
No clue. But some seem like common sense.
If you’re talking things like weed vs fentanyl then that’s self explanatory. Others maybe not so much.
Alcohol keeps getting brought up. And either you have to take large doses of it or use it over a long period of time. You can’t say the same for numerous other drugs that can kill you much easier with lower doses or the medium in which it’s consumed.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:41 am to WDE24
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Good Samaritan laws protect people attempting to render aid (good Samaritans) from liability. They don’t require the general public to be good Samaritans to people who have overdosed.
Jerry and his zany band of friends didn't get in trouble for helping, they got in trouble for not helping and instead making fat jokes.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:41 am to stout
Darwin giveth, Darwin taketh
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:43 am to More beer please
quote:Because it’s regulated. Go look at prohibition. Deaths, blindness, and all sorts of other issues from one or two sips of “alcohol”
And either you have to take large doses of it or use it over a long period of time.
Sound familiar?
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 11:43 am
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:46 am to lsupride87
Fentanyl is regulated, how’s that working out?
Opioids are regulated yet it’s a massive problem in Louisiana because of doctors.
Simply “regulating” drugs isn’t the answer.
Opioids are regulated yet it’s a massive problem in Louisiana because of doctors.
Simply “regulating” drugs isn’t the answer.
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 11:48 am
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:49 am to More beer please
quote:Do you think most people dying of fentanyl are trying to actually consume fentanyl?
Fentanyl is regulated, how’s that working out?
Your username is beer. Imagine going out for a beer, taking a sip, and dying because the person who solid it to you out fentanyl in it. That’s what is happening. And the same exact thing happened with alcohol prohibition(obviously not fentanyl at the time)
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 11:50 am
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:51 am to lsupride87
I'm just going to throw this in here since the conversation quickly turned to the government.
It is the Fed you can thank for this problem. The seed of the problem was planted by the Fed. The Fed attempted to "fix" the problem it created, but only made it worse.
You can't spend a couple decades pushing narcotics on the general public to the point that you get them dependent on the shite, and seemingly overnight clamp down on that supply. You can't change laws that cut people off, many with real need, overnight, making it harder or nearly impossible for them to get their meds, and expect the black market not to boom. Junkies are nothing new. The influx of what used to be law abiding citizens being treated for legitimate issues into that group is.
The question should be why the Fed made the decisions it did. Are they happy with the end outcome? The cynic would say yes. I tend to think the cynic may just be a realist in this debate.
It is the Fed you can thank for this problem. The seed of the problem was planted by the Fed. The Fed attempted to "fix" the problem it created, but only made it worse.
You can't spend a couple decades pushing narcotics on the general public to the point that you get them dependent on the shite, and seemingly overnight clamp down on that supply. You can't change laws that cut people off, many with real need, overnight, making it harder or nearly impossible for them to get their meds, and expect the black market not to boom. Junkies are nothing new. The influx of what used to be law abiding citizens being treated for legitimate issues into that group is.
The question should be why the Fed made the decisions it did. Are they happy with the end outcome? The cynic would say yes. I tend to think the cynic may just be a realist in this debate.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:53 am to LegendInMyMind
quote:I agree with everything you posted
I'm just going to throw this in here since the conversation quickly turned to the government. It is the Fed you can thank for this problem. The seed of the problem was planted by the Fed. The Fed attempted to "fix" the problem it created, but only made it worse. You can't spend a couple decades pushing narcotics on the general public to the point that you get them dependent on the shite, and seemingly overnight clamp down on that supply. You can't change laws that cut people off, many with real need, overnight, making it harder or nearly impossible for them to get their meds, and expect the black market not to boom. Junkies are nothing new. The influx of what used to be law abiding citizens being treated for legitimate issues into that group is. The question should be why the Fed made the decisions it did. Are they happy with the end outcome? The cynic would say yes. I tend to think the cynic may just be a realist in this debate.
My biggest gripe is the public supporting the government and praising them actually for the “fight on drugs”
We saw what prohibition did. It didn’t stop drinking of alcohol, it just created a black market which causes crime, murders, and unintended deaths due to the deregulation of the product being sold
We literally got to see it play out already, and yet people still demand MORE of it today
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:56 am to More beer please
quote:It absolutely is the answer for those ODing on fentanyl when they think the purchased something else
Simply “regulating” drugs isn’t the answer.
Call me a cynic, but I’m not worried much about junkies, alcoholics, etc. There isn’t much as a society we can do to help them. But those ODing on products due to then being sold something else? That’s a problem 100% being created by the government themselves
Posted on 9/28/23 at 12:03 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Simply “regulating” drugs isn’t the answer.
It absolutely is the answer for those ODing on fentanyl when they think the (sic) purchased something else
Res ipsa loquitur.
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