re: New York City is now calling on all residents to be neighborly and carry Narcan

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but we do not live in some kind of perfect society.

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And we never will as long as we keep trying to excuse destructive behavior instead of fixing it.

Speaking of which...

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Good, productive people do drugs recreationally.

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If they can handle it, that's fine. For them. The problem is their example, and especially your use of them, sets up a false expectation that anyone and everyone can also do drugs recreationally and still be good and productive people. There are streets in this country literally littered with people that prove that.

Proponing the "good, productive people do drugs recreationally" excuse is why we have this level of drug epidemic.

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It doesn't matter if you look down on it, and think that you are better than those people.

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That's a very telling statement in its defensiveness. You are willing to sacrifice the lives of others just so people can feel warm and fuzzy about being able to do drugs recreationally. Congrats on being part of the problem while also denouncing the obvious solution.

Next time, just say "but it's too hard".

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We had a fentynal problem in our school building last year for a bit.

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High school? Kids were getting pills off the street and it was laced with fentanyl?

Kids watch their parents get drunk at lsu tailgates every year. And that’s not “dredge of society” people doing so. Trying to “de normalize” drugs ain’t going to happen

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Anyone that isn’t a giant hypocrite should fight for the legalization of it and regulation by the FDA of that drug in order to fix the problem


We should fight for the legalization of cocaine and meth?

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Yes. If you are interested in either being less of a problem for society absolutely. If you are interested in free adults being free to trade and lead their lives as THEY see fit and not the way politicians see fit then yes. The problem with illegal drugs is they are illegal. Prohibition ALWAYS causes unintended or, arguably intended, ill side effects. Adults should be free to do what they damn well please as long as it does not impact others. Manufacturing drugs in a laboratory with some sensible government regulations would end the problem of ODing as it is taking place today.

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First, everyone should carry naloxone

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Anyone who thinks the current tactics of drug enforcement (criminalization) in this country are even moderately effective in addressing this issue is incredibly dense.

With regard to the sentiment that a 20 year old kid who makes a mistake partying deserves to die as that’s a risk they’ve “accepted,” people need to take a hard look in the mirror on their own behavior in their youth. Fentanyl would be easily eliminated from a regulated market, but because the market is illegal, we have no way to control it and otherwise promising people are dying in mistakes of naïveté.

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What "problems" would that solve?


You think that the risk of dying keeps people from shooting up? CLEARLY it does not.

Or you think that all of the junkies are just going to die off, and poof, drug problem disappears?

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Each one that dies makes the world a better place. If you get to the point in your junkie life that you need Narcan, the odds of you ever recovering are nearly zero. Narcan just delays the inevitable and allows them to continue to be a drain and a danger to society.

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Ok, let me clarify if it is a pill or powder from anyone other than the pharmacy then you probably should just not do it.

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the pills from the pharmacy are often worse, especially when oxy was still around.

Weekend warriors doing coke on a Friday for 50 years, just in the last few years there has been the fent risk

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Each one that dies makes the world a better place. If you get to the point in your junkie life that you need Narcan, the odds of you ever recovering are nearly zero. Narcan just delays the inevitable and allows them to continue to be a drain and a danger to society.

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So if you had a child who was at a party, and was offered a bump of coke that had fentanyl in it, and accepted, and OD'd, them not having access to narcan and dying would make the world a better place? And if her life was saved by narcan, she would have nearly a zero percent chance of not being a junkie? I mean, that is basically what you are spewing here.

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So if you had a child who was at a party, and was offered a bump of coke that had fentanyl in it,

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There's a foolproof way to prevent this.


Of course my post was hyperbole.

But I have a junkie brother and he and his friends have been been revived with Narcan more times than I can count. It just keeps their miserable lives going so they can suck their existence out of society.