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re: New truck consideration
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:12 am to LSUfan4444
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:12 am to LSUfan4444
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I am curious do you know if it had the updated timing chain?
Me as well...I thought, for the most part, that the timing chain issue was alot more rare now
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I am also driving the 21 diesel 3.0 max GMC Sierra. 65k miles. Wondering how widespread the timing chain issue is?
I am curious do you know if it had the updated timing chain?
Me as well...I thought, for the most part, that the timing chain issue was alot more rare now
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I am also driving the 21 diesel 3.0 max GMC Sierra. 65k miles. Wondering how widespread the timing chain issue is?
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 9:13 am
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:26 am to bad93ex
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Tundras are being offered for 0% for 72 months in my area
That's a sure indication that the OEM whiffed on one or more aspects of the design with a model in its first few years of production. In Toyota's case, this was their first big volume serial hybrid, they went too conservative and missed on the MPG/Performance tradeoff completely. Packaging is not great either.
OP, there is a good chance that DEF goes away within the next few years. You do NOT want to be stuck with a DEF-equipped truck for resale if that happens. There will probably be delete kits galore, but installation quality and kit quality will both be variable if this becomes a mass market.
I'm no fan of Stellantis, but I'd definitely look hard at Ram and Ford right now. Get the extended FACTORY warranty from one of the dealers who sell them online for much less than the selling dealer wants, and enjoy your truck.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:27 am to TigerHornII
I would buy a new Tundra with confidence. I think the engine manufacturing issue has been resolved. It’s just that I don’t find the new Tundras as appealing as the other brands.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:37 am to Allister Fiend
There is no new truck available worth what they are asking.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:41 am to Allister Fiend
I bought a GMC with the baby diesel earlier this year and love it.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:48 am to roadkill
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F-150 XLT Super Crew with the 5.0L Coyote V-8. Great, proven, naturally aspirated engine w/plenty of power and a very satisfying V-8 exhaust note when you put your foot in it. No turbo, no hybrid. I bought a new 2019 and it gives 20+ mpg around town - 22-23 mpg on interstate and will run for 300k+ miles if you change oil/filter every 5k miles.
The engine may be great but my 2016 Ford had to have electronic modules replaced three maybe four times. All under warranty which cost me a ton in rental car fees because of their crazy rental reimbursement policy and the way the dealerships operate. I will likely never buy a Ford again. I currently have 240,000 miles on the truck.
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 11:49 am
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:56 am to Allister Fiend
A truck is a tool. What job do you need it for?
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:56 am to LemmyLives
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The first year of an engine/tranny/body redesign anecdotally seems the worst thing to buy.
Unless they’ve fixed the issue with the 6.3 or in the case of Toyota are re-releasing the pre-Trump era V8s again (I hope).
I’m not buying any SUV or Truck post covid until the issues are fixed and they absolutely are not yet.
If you don’t have to pull the trigger now just wait, Toyota will either figure out the new turbo issue or offer the V8 again.
The other manufacturers I don’t trust to do anything consistently right so who knows.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:14 pm to biglego
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I would buy a new Tundra with confidence. I think the engine manufacturing issue has been resolved. It’s just that I don’t find the new Tundras as appealing as the other brands.
That really pretty nicely sums up the situation. Toyota has almost certainly fixed the quality issues by now. You don't find them appealing because they missed on the powertrain and the interior is still somewhat dated in terms of electronics. You're apparently in good company in the broad consumer market.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:45 pm to tankyank13
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Put on your seatbelt baw
It is......do you see the problem?
Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:45 pm to Allister Fiend
I have always gone with Chevy..but Toyota is a very reliable brand. I would go
1. Chevy Silverado
2. Tacoma or Tundra
3. Dodge Ram
1. Chevy Silverado
2. Tacoma or Tundra
3. Dodge Ram
Posted on 8/10/25 at 3:01 pm to SkintBack
Yes, you're driving a Dodge.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 3:52 pm to TigerHornII
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That really pretty nicely sums up the situation. Toyota has almost certainly fixed the quality issues by now. You don't find them appealing because they missed on the powertrain and the interior is still somewhat dated in terms of electronics. You're apparently in good company in the broad consumer market.
Anyone here have experience with both the new tundra engine and the Ford ecoboost? For comparison
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:22 pm to biglego
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Anyone here have experience with both the new tundra engine and the Ford ecoboost? For comparison
You're probably trolling. In case its an honest question:
First of all, there are multiple engines that have worn the Ecoboost label. There are few to no common parts between them.
- The 3.5 is on its 3rd generation design. Millions upon millions have been produced. Do shops see a lot of them? Of course they do, because there are millions of them out there with highly variable owner maintenance. Like a lot of modern engines, if you neglect the oil changes and/or consistently think you know better than the factory on what oil weight to use, you will see problems. Cam phasers were an issue for certain years, but again, due to the sheer number of them in the market, this gets overblown. 1-2% of owners having the issues is a lot of people, even if your individual odds are long.
- The 2,7 is probably their 2nd most numerous engine. IIRC it is on gen II. If you peruse Autotrader, you will find a lot of these for sale with very high miles. They are considered to be a good bet for >200k miles.
- There are a number of Ecoboost I4's with significant variability in how well they hold up. No common parts with the two F150 V6's.
- The Toyota serial hybrid engines are all brand new. They had a disastrous launch, which if you look back at their history, is a common Toyota occurrence with new engines. They just don't launch anything all new very often, so people bury it in their minds. They tend to get one in production, then spend a decade or more making tiny refinements. The problem was complete engine failure at very low miles. Just a few months ago, they had a stop sale on all vehicles with that engine. The claim is that the blocks had metal shaving contamination.
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:59 pm to biglego
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If reliability is paramount then buy a 2021 Tundra. All the new trucks are a crapshoot. Personally I’d go with the Ram or F150. I would never frick with a sunroof. You wont use it and it will leak.
We I bought my 17 F250 I had to have a sunroof. In the 5 years I owned the truck I opened it once and didn’t have it covered twice. It’s just too damn hot to leave it open. When I built my 22 F250 I didn’t do a sunroof and my brother bought my 17 from me in an in and out deal at the dealership. Within a year the sunroof either broke or started leaking or both
Kinda felt bad for him but I let him buy it for what the dealership offered me on trade so he got a steal at the time.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:49 pm to Allister Fiend
Avoid GM
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:55 pm to roadkill
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F-150 XLT Super Crew with the 5.0L Coyote V-8. Great, proven, naturally aspirated engine w/plenty of power and a very satisfying V-8 exhaust note when you put your foot in it. No turbo, no hybrid. I bought a new 2019 and it gives 20+ mpg around town - 22-23 mpg on interstate and will run for 300k+ miles if you change oil/filter every 5k miles.
You're welcome.
Had a 2018 with the same engine. Trans went out at 80,000 miles, transfer case, timing chain @ 95,000 miles
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:58 pm to Allister Fiend
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Both are about the same price. Both have leather, sunroofs, running boards, 4x4, basically creature comforts. I’ve been looking at the pros and cons of each. Everything I’ve read on both engines seem positive. Ram supposedly is extremely comfortable with a highly regarded interior. GMC has good resale value and small diesel gets great mpg. Only real knock I see with GMC is it is an older design.
That diesel was refreshed in 2024 LZO now not LM2. Oil pump belt good for 200k miles. I have a 2024 Sierra (LZO) plenty of power and only had to fill up 4 times on a 2400 mile road trip.
My brother has the LM2 with over 100,000 miles, no issues.
Remember you will never hear about the good ones, only the bad. especially here.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:00 pm to bbarras85
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:26 pm to bbarras85
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Remember you will never hear about the good ones, only the bad. especially here.
Truck threads are the biggest anecdotal feedback loops ever. "BAW i had a 2009 RAM and the transmission failed, pieces of shite, don't buy"
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