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re: New studies find that being fat is not healthy

Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:03 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:03 am to
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Upper body strength doesn't really mean you're fat or not.

I know some long distance runners with barely any body fat that probably can't do that because they have barely any muscle up top either.


hence why i said weak as shite as an option. But again you are using long distance runners as the rule when they are very very much an outlier, an exception to the rule.

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And I can do that fairly easily and I'm slightly over my doc's preferred BMI for a 40 year old (although not fat in appearance by any means besides a lil dad bod action where by 6 pack used to be )


you prolly are not that fat then or you lift. Most people do not lift, much less train to get stronger.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:05 am to
Upvotes for the subject matter, your identity on TD, and your avatar-



Great movie.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65118 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:06 am to
This really isn't hard to understand yet some people tend to think they're doing okay. Christmas 2019 for instance. I'm 5'9" and weighed about 185 lbs at the time. I told my mom I could afford to lose some weight and she thought I looked okay. My family are all overweight and I think that kind of factored into her thought process. Anyways...I disagreed and when the pandemic finally hit I resolved to not waste the valuable time I had been given to do something about what I saw as a weight problem. I felt flabby, unhealthy, and hated how my fat would roll up when I sat down on the couch. It felt disgusting.

I was down to 180 lbs when the pandemic started, briefly rose up to about 183 lbs due to the compulsive eating and drinking I did for the first three or four weeks of lockdown, and then started to get to work. Here were are almost a year in, my BMI is down to less than 23, I have less than 16% total body fat, and I feel much better about myself. I also feel healthier and more energetic. I can jog forever and can do 80 push-ups without stopping. Before I started working out, I could barely jog a mile and a half and couldn't do more than 40 push-ups without stopping to rest.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 11:08 am
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:10 am to
You don't fricking say
Posted by TotalYatMove
Member since Oct 2010
1687 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:11 am to
I'm watching it right now actually.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13581 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:13 am to


I typically hate when people sue others for dumb shite, but I hope a very bright attorney sues the shite out of one of these people promoting that fat is healthy. Find a fat person who develops health issues and has a subscription to one of these magazines, and profit.
Posted by Boogalie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2016
245 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:14 am to
Prob. funded by WHO, since Trump left office that translates to America funding.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22535 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:28 am to
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I told my mom I could afford to lose some weight and she thought I looked okay.

You can just look at this thread. A lot of overweight people in general think they’re in pretty good shape. That if they lost another 20 pounds they’d be sickly and bone thin. Problem is the public’s perception of what constitutes thin and overweight has changed dramatically.

You also have people that are obese that think they’re overweight. I remember there was a thread a while back of a big guy who died from Covid who probably could’ve lost 50 pounds but some people were baffled that people thought he was obese. Obese in their mind is someone that is morbidly obese like the OT’s favorite man Gravy Chambers.

This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 11:32 am
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13461 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:28 am to
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you prolly are not that fat then or you lift. Most people do not lift, much less train to get stronger.



Yoga 2x a week and walk my dog every day.

All I do

But the core is stronger than ever and it helped my back pain go away. I work on our house and property a lot as well which keeps my muscles from full on atrophy

I just don't think getting stronger past a certain point is really necessary or beneficial - at least in my life. Staying limber, lean, and in decent cardiovascular condition are all much more important in my opinion than something like upper body strength.

I honestly don't don't where I'm going with this, had too much coffee and just talking to talk
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13461 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:30 am to
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You can just look at this thread. A lot of overweight people in general think they’re in pretty good shape. That if they lost another 20 pounds they’d be sickly and bone thin. Problem is the public’s perception of what constitutes thin and overweight has changed dramatically.


This is very true. They have moved the goal posts somehow despite doctors sticking to their BMI charts. Fat people everywhere have just made it acceptable to be fat, but not disgustingly fat.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31205 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:33 am to
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I just don't think getting stronger past a certain point is really necessary or beneficial - at least in my life. Staying limber, lean, and in decent cardiovascular condition are all much more important in my opinion than something like upper body strength.


agree but once in the 50s and 60s many tend to lose strength big time. Its funny a new meta analysis came out that essentially proved we have pretty much the same ability to gain strength at 65 as we do at 35, yet we see all these issues in the 60+ crowd. Those issues are usually from lack of hard physical activity.

but being able to do 5 strict dead hang chins is gonna be plenty strong enough for most people.
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6640 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:34 am to
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Fat people everywhere have just made it acceptable to be fat, but not disgustingly fat.



It shifts into a comparison with "the next guy."

"well I might be a little overweight but so and so is even bigger. Now THAT'S fat!"

Nah, you're both fat. The person you're comparing yourself too is just fatter.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31205 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:34 am to
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This is very true. They have moved the goal posts somehow despite doctors sticking to their BMI charts. Fat people everywhere have just made it acceptable to be fat, but not disgustingly fat.


pretty much what every thread on the OT that mentions BMI boils down to.
Posted by TotalYatMove
Member since Oct 2010
1687 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:45 am to
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A lot of overweight people in general think they’re in pretty good shape. That if they lost another 20 pounds they’d be sickly and bone thin.


It's just a bit of hyperbole to explain a position. I'm overweight by 15 lbs according to the chart. If I lost 20, I'd be thrilled. The chart also says I could lose 60 lbs and still be in the normal range. I'd probably rather be 150 than an out of shape 210, but I don't think I'd be as happy with my physique as I would at 185-190.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1478 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:16 pm to
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We should have something similar to the presidential fitness tests they had us do in elementary/middle school but for TD. If you pass you get a special star under your screen name.



Let’s take this idea a step further and plan the inaugural TD O-T Olympics!

Events would be held at the Prop Stop every four years in the first week of August. Possible competitions could include most beer-case curls (and individual can curls ), most crawfish traps gathered in 5 minutes, and most hay bales thrown onto a trailer.

Side events would include a gatortail drag-race, Sonic MMA fight bracket, and a swimsuit competition judged by the greatest connoisseurs the site has to offer.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
6251 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:41 pm to
They have to adjust these bmi charts to fit modern times. It’s not the 1940’s anymore. 6ft 1 190 or 6ft 4 205 is not overweight by any sense of the imagination lol.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31205 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:44 pm to
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They have to adjust these bmi charts to fit modern times. It’s not the 1940’s anymore. 6ft 1 190 or 195 is not overweight by any sense of the imagination lol.


that would be barely overweight and if you dont lift, yes it is overweight. They do not need to adjust the chart, you need to accept you need to lose weight.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83583 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:47 pm to
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They have to adjust these bmi charts to fit modern times. It’s not the 1940’s anymore. 6ft 1 190 or 6ft 4 205 is not overweight by any sense of the imagination lol.


"they need to adjust to fit how fat we are today"
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6640 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:49 pm to
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They have to adjust these bmi charts to fit modern times. It’s not the 1940’s anymore. 6ft 1 190 or 6ft 4 205 is not overweight by any sense of the imagination lol.


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3PieceSpicy


Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35498 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:55 pm to
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They have to adjust these bmi charts to fit modern times. It’s not the 1940’s anymore.
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