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re: New narrative protecting Alec Baldwin...

Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:31 am to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:31 am to
Amazing reading how liberals protect their own, even when it's involving a stance so dear to their values.
Same with Fauci and beagle puppies.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296141 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:32 am to
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Angry turds usually use "nut" due to a lack of command of the English language.
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The irony in this statement can’t be lost on you, can it?


Not at all.

I've never pretended to be some academic champion like most of you people here who need the self esteem boost.


But even little ole me can figure out an actual decent word rather than "nut."
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 9:33 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:33 am to
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Not at all.
Good.

Wait a minute….
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But even little ole me can figure out an actual decent word rather than "nut."
like turd?
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 9:34 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296141 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:34 am to
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how liberals protect their own


Its a cult.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296141 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:36 am to
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like turd?


Perfect description of shitty posters.

Unfortunately you weren't bright enough to catch it. There was a real reason for the word
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 9:37 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25126 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:42 am to
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As said, if this is truly where hollywood digs in (which is outrageous) then hollywood needs to design prop guns that are not in fact real guns.

Its not that hard. Lots of airsoft guns look nearly indistinguishable from the real version once you remove the orange tip. With modern film technology, its pretty easy for them to add the sound and CGI muzzle flash in later. Saw a story where one production company already said that's what they're doing going forward.

I still can't believe anyone in the production crew would allow actual live ammo anywhere near the set.
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7718 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:46 am to
If Baldwin was so careful, then why didn’t he check the ammo in the gun before he shot it.
He’s as much at fault as any other reason.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
86519 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:47 am to
Yeah two things REALLY stick out to me in this story

1- The previously reported (and sounds like documented) safety issues they had. That's goint to destroy a lot of the arguments

2- how did live ammo get in the gun? This seems like a pretty big deal, and I don't think it's talked about enough.

Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:49 am to
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1- The previously reported (and sounds like documented) safety issues they had. That's goint to destroy a lot of the arguments

2- how did live ammo get in the gun? This seems like a pretty big deal, and I don't think it's talked about enough.

It will be interesting to see what shakes out. Obviously this didn’t happen without some negligence. Depending on the investigation, it could be willful or gross negligence and/or criminal. I suspect they will stop short of criminal charges, but the civil liability is likely pretty extensive.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 9:50 am
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4523 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:53 am to
If his finger squeezed that firearm trigger then it's all on Baldwin
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21982 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:54 am to
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It is always a negligent discharge.


Anyone who has had a firearms safety course or has been schooled in firearm safety knows not to point a gun at something you do not intend to kill or destroy.

End of story.

*he was negligent and liable at best
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21982 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:56 am to
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If Baldwin was so careful, then why didn’t he check the ammo in the gun before he shot it.
He’s as much at fault as any other reason.


Treat all firearms as if they are loaded.

*there is a reason this is a rule. See: Alec Baldwin
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:56 am to
Interesting that the dude who shot Brandon Lee over the years was thought of as a sympathetic figure. Hell, even when brought up over the past few days on TD, the majority of posts were feeling sorry for him.

But with Baldwin, people have an entirely different mindset. Funny how that works...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:57 am to
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Its a cult.
Imagine thinking both sides don't do this.

That's adorable
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:59 am to
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I love it when Lawyers come on here all hyper condescending and have no clue what they are talking about.

Both accidental and negligent have been discussed ad nauseum for two fricking days and you still think we have all answers?

Your knowledge of law never ever trumps firearm safety

Theres another word you need to learn. Negligence.

Oh, I have a clue. You really don't. I would love to read your explanation, as I think this is the only time you and I have ever disagreed.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73134 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:01 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:01 am to
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Can you explain what a "gun culture nut" is?
Easily identifiable. Most don't hunt, but got into guns vie video games. Into concealed carry. Freaks out when someone say, "clip". Buys tons of ammo. Says the negligent vs accidental bullshite.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27498 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:03 am to
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Obviously Baldwin isn't not going to get any sort of murder charges put against him, but he has to be accountable for manslaughter, for negligent homicide at the very least. He IS responsible for her death.

He should be charged with the same murder charge that a crane operator is charged with when a load breaks free and someone is killed.

(Has anyone ever heard of a murder charge from a fatal workplace accident?)
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:05 am to
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Has anyone ever heard of a murder charge from a fatal workplace accident?
I have heard of manslaughter charges from workplace accidents. They are rare and difficult to get a conviction.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296141 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:06 am to
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Says the negligent vs accidental bullshite.


What does this legal definition which crosses over to every fricking category in the world, all of a sudden become the property of these poor dumb southern "gun culture nots.?

Is this something you hear when Deer hunting all the time? Weird, I haven't.

Looks like you made up some narrative you don';t have the ability to defend.

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