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Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:02 am to jpainter6174
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Too little too late but swearing in before having a sign job is wild. His recruiter fricked him if that happened.
wrong. he has no obligation to ship
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:06 am to hubreb
Even when my dad went into the Army back in the 50’s he was heavy artillery for a year. Then the Army somehow found out he could drive a truck and they were short on drivers at the time. So he got moved from artillery to truck driver. Back then it was the Army’s wants come first and then maybe yours come next.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:11 am to hubreb
Not sure about the marines, but the coast guard we didn’t have an Mos before we went to boot camp for the most part. ( I didn’t). Went to my first unit in 2 years found what I wanted to do and could do with my asvb score and what was the fastest to get into A school.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:11 am to Proximo
Then he probably isn’t going to be able to join again.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:13 am to RolltidePA
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Nothing like a full military career of standing at the gate, usually with shitty leadership. I felt bad for those guys.
Yep, constantly on standby, getting "voluntold" to do shitty detail and just an overall horrible job. Unless you plan on being a civilian cop when you get out, it's pretty much useless for your future. Plus, a lot of civilian departments frown upon hiring ex military police because of UCMJ and you basically have get them out of that military mindset.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:15 am to jpainter6174
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Then he probably isn’t going to be able to join again.
you don't know what you're talking about
I did it myself, so did one of my friends. No issue not shipping and signing a new contract
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 10:17 am
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:31 am to cheobode
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Unless you plan on being a civilian cop when you get out, it's pretty much useless for your future. Plus, a lot of civilian departments frown upon hiring ex military police because of UCMJ and you basically have get them out of that military mindset.
A few of the guys I knew went that route trying to get into AFOSI hoping for a career as detective or something similar down the line. Most of them were denied. What a waste all that time must have been for them.
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 10:32 am
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:52 am to RolltidePA
I don't like knocking on these guys because their tech school is pretty tough and I wouldn't do it but their job is basically a glorified security guard. I wanted the Air Force to benefit my needs, not the other way around.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:06 am to Proximo
And did you still join?
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:20 am to cheobode
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...but their job is basically a glorified security guard...
That's why you gotta go with LE (Law Enforcement) instead.
You actually do real patrols and not just guard an aircraft on the ramp.
I always tell lost kids to join the AF and either do LE or fire fighter.
Do 4-6 years and get out and work in Kommiefornia making 6 figures and retire at 50 with a hell of a pension.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:21 am to hubreb
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Any of you have experience with something like this?
it's been several years now, but when my son was going to enlist, he knew his job before signing anything or swearing in
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:21 am to GeauxtigersMs36
“the coast guard we didn’t have an Mos before we went to boot camp”
I was sworn in Navy reserve,1968.Went to boot camp in 1969,didn’t have an MOS.I requested Equipment Operator (Seabees) and that’s what I got.
A curious thing I never understood,I had a Top Secret security clearance when I got out of boot camp.
The FBI came to my neighborhood,quizzing the neighbors about me,also went to the high school I graduated from and to the grocery store I had worked at.My parents worried I was in some kind of trouble.
I was asked several times during my time in why I had a TS security clearance.I had no idea why.
The recruiter lied to me about 1 thing.I wanted to go in under a program where you sign up at 17,get out day you turn 21.He told me Navy had dc’ed that program.I get to boot camp and there were 2 guys in my company that were 17.He had me sworn in at 17 in reserves,went active at 18.
Worked out for best though,I got promotions 4 months earlier and my 4th year in was my best year.
I was sworn in Navy reserve,1968.Went to boot camp in 1969,didn’t have an MOS.I requested Equipment Operator (Seabees) and that’s what I got.
A curious thing I never understood,I had a Top Secret security clearance when I got out of boot camp.
The FBI came to my neighborhood,quizzing the neighbors about me,also went to the high school I graduated from and to the grocery store I had worked at.My parents worried I was in some kind of trouble.
I was asked several times during my time in why I had a TS security clearance.I had no idea why.
The recruiter lied to me about 1 thing.I wanted to go in under a program where you sign up at 17,get out day you turn 21.He told me Navy had dc’ed that program.I get to boot camp and there were 2 guys in my company that were 17.He had me sworn in at 17 in reserves,went active at 18.
Worked out for best though,I got promotions 4 months earlier and my 4th year in was my best year.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:33 am to Sam Quint
i want to kind of defend recruiters here a little.
first off - a recruiter should never, ever lie. if a recruiter is lying to get people, frick him. he is a piece of shite and should be fired. that said, recruiting is an incredibly high-pressure job, and these guys work crazy hours, and often through the weekend. i've heard from multiple prior recruiters that they would rather deploy overseas for a year than do another three year recruiting tour.
keep in mind that recruiting for the military is a numbers game. yes, it's true that Staff Sergeant Beltbuckle at recruit station X does not give a shite about your little poopy pants baby who wants to be a recon sniper Delta SEAL F-35 pilot. sorry, he doesnt. that recruiter is going to maneuver, convince, cajole, and manipulate your little Timmy to sign on whatever line he needs him to sign on to MEET MISSION. if that means your sweet baby ends up counting basketballs at the gym at Camp Lejeune when he wanted to fly Hornets, well, sorry, but the Marine Corps needs basketball counters too.
again - if a recruiter is outright lying, then frick him. but 99% of "my recruiter lied to me" stories are really "i was too dumb to do my own research or ask the right questions".
and keep in mind that recruiters are dealing with 17-18 year old dudes all day, every day. maybe your little Billy really is super squared away and professional and a great communicator, but he is still lumped in with a recruit pool, a huge percentage of which are absolute morons with nothing else going on, who the recruiter is desperately just trying to get them ELIGIBLE to enlist to ANY job. they dont return calls, they dotn show up when they are supposed to, they back out at the last minute - and every one of those is costing that recruiter precious time that he could have been spending on someone like your little Johnny. right or not, many recruiters get pretty cynical, and understandably so.
i know why recruiters get a bad rap, and much of it is deserved, but it is a brutal, cutthroat, stressful job that can literally end a career.
i say again - none of that is an excuse for outright lying. that's unacceptable in any context. but recruiters are not the equivalent of ambulance chasers and used car salesmen. many of them dont want to be doing that job to begin with and they're just trying to do their best to meet mission and not ruin their career so they can go back to the infantry or wherever.
first off - a recruiter should never, ever lie. if a recruiter is lying to get people, frick him. he is a piece of shite and should be fired. that said, recruiting is an incredibly high-pressure job, and these guys work crazy hours, and often through the weekend. i've heard from multiple prior recruiters that they would rather deploy overseas for a year than do another three year recruiting tour.
keep in mind that recruiting for the military is a numbers game. yes, it's true that Staff Sergeant Beltbuckle at recruit station X does not give a shite about your little poopy pants baby who wants to be a recon sniper Delta SEAL F-35 pilot. sorry, he doesnt. that recruiter is going to maneuver, convince, cajole, and manipulate your little Timmy to sign on whatever line he needs him to sign on to MEET MISSION. if that means your sweet baby ends up counting basketballs at the gym at Camp Lejeune when he wanted to fly Hornets, well, sorry, but the Marine Corps needs basketball counters too.
again - if a recruiter is outright lying, then frick him. but 99% of "my recruiter lied to me" stories are really "i was too dumb to do my own research or ask the right questions".
and keep in mind that recruiters are dealing with 17-18 year old dudes all day, every day. maybe your little Billy really is super squared away and professional and a great communicator, but he is still lumped in with a recruit pool, a huge percentage of which are absolute morons with nothing else going on, who the recruiter is desperately just trying to get them ELIGIBLE to enlist to ANY job. they dont return calls, they dotn show up when they are supposed to, they back out at the last minute - and every one of those is costing that recruiter precious time that he could have been spending on someone like your little Johnny. right or not, many recruiters get pretty cynical, and understandably so.
i know why recruiters get a bad rap, and much of it is deserved, but it is a brutal, cutthroat, stressful job that can literally end a career.
i say again - none of that is an excuse for outright lying. that's unacceptable in any context. but recruiters are not the equivalent of ambulance chasers and used car salesmen. many of them dont want to be doing that job to begin with and they're just trying to do their best to meet mission and not ruin their career so they can go back to the infantry or wherever.
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 11:37 am
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:07 pm to Turnblad85
quote:You come from a line of people who in generations before scoffed at computers, internal combustion engines, electricity, agriculture, etc….
How well does "fueling airplanes" translate to a real world job in civilian life?
Sounds like 4 wasted years.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:14 pm to hubreb
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they are logistics desk jobs
I was kinda in the same boat when I joined the Army. I wanted Combat Medic. There weren’t any slots available at the time. So my MOS Counselor told me about other medical jobs that were available. Of the 2 or 3 that he mentioned I liked the one repairing medical equipment. Looking back, that was probably the best/luckiest decision I made. It equates very well in civilian life.
He might not like it now. But these type of jobs equate better to the real world than any Combat Arms job ever will. He could do time in the Marines as a Logistics Specialist then get out and get a decent job with his experience. There’s not much need in the real world for an Infantryman.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:54 pm to carhartt
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There’s not much need in the real world for an Infantryman.
i'm goign to assume to meant the "civilian" world and not the "real" world, beause i assure you there is plenty need in the real world for infantrymen.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 1:02 pm to Sam Quint
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i'm goign to assume to meant the "civilian" world and not the "real" world, beause i assure you there is plenty need in the real world for infantrymen.
Civilian world and real world are the same thing. And, no, there aren’t many job advertisements for Infantrymen on Indeed.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 1:09 pm to 13SaintTiger
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Exactly this. Nothing will happen to him if he doesn’t ship off to bootcamp. He needs to be firm with the recruiter that he is only willing to ship if he gets infantry. A job will magically open up for him. That recruiter needs him more than he needs the recruiter.
Really? It’s been a while since I signed up. I thought once you signed that contract and swore in you had to go? Refusing to ship out and getting away with it? I definitely didn’t know that. Is it a general type discharge?
Posted on 5/1/26 at 1:25 pm to Btrtigerfan
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Tell him when he gets to boot camp eat a lot of crayons and lick the windows as often as he can. They’ll move him.
we stopped doing that YEARS ago. the crayons are still delicious.
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