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re: New Indiana law allows citizens to shoot cops who enter house illegally

Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6476 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:08 pm to
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New Indiana law allows citizens to shoot cops who enter house illegally


Seems like common sense.
Posted by BlueCheckCertified
Member since Dec 2022
70 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:17 pm to
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Can I assume Indiana does not permit no knock warrants? Otherwise a legal entry can look like an illegal one.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20356 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:20 pm to
Well since everyone has pointed out that it's a 7 year old law, any examples of it being applied?
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19542 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:21 pm to
I'm good with it. Come correct or don't come at all.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113972 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:26 pm to
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the uniform and assumption of risk

but EVERYONE else understands this




So its legal for police to illegally enter your house?
Posted by BlueCheckCertified
Member since Dec 2022
70 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:38 pm to
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So its legal for police to illegally enter your house?


Yeah, a funny little court-invented law called qualified immunity makes it to where cops can violate your rights and not be held accountable unless the very exact crime down to the nitty gritty has already been ruled on as a violation of rights.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79209 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:56 pm to
Why would this have to be a law? Unlawful is unlawful regardless of who it is.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66948 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 12:51 am to
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A house is a person’s castle. If it is illegal entry, the cop should have no more legal protection than a common burglar


Get the warrant right. Don’t really have a problem with this type of law.
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
3447 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:06 am to
quote:

A house is a person’s castle. If it is illegal entry, the cop should have no more legal protection than a common burglar.


Arguably, if an agent of a government has entered your house illegally, a common burglar is likely present less risk to you than that agent.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49303 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:17 am to
Police got hit with that UNO reverse card and aren’t sure how to handle it
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48953 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:44 am to
You can use deadly force to resist unlawful arrest anywhere.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:50 am to
Swat raids should be illegal in the first place. They’re dangerous and stupid tactics that cops only use because they feel cool doing it. Arrest the motherfricker when he’s in the parking lot of McDonalds or something.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21628 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:19 am to
Why do they need to bust in? Hostage situation- ok, Armed man who they know will not go without a shootout - ok. Dope dealer - not ok, get a warrant and make sure you've announced loud enough to wake up the block. Same for routine fugitives from the law.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15557 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 5:01 am to
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Dope dealer - not ok, get a warrant and make sure you've announced loud enough to wake up the bloc
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Will find no dope in said house

The current procedure of knock and announce is sufficient. There is a policy reason to prevent destruction of evidence
Posted by bobBoxer
the great state of Texas
Member since Jun 2022
606 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 5:16 am to
quote:

quote:
Dope dealer - not ok, get a warrant and make sure you've announced loud enough to wake up the bloc

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Will find no dope in said house

The current procedure of knock and announce is sufficient. There is a policy reason to prevent destruction of evidence
if the cops have enough evidence to get a warrant, do they really need the dope inside the house, and kicking someones door in over drugs is a bit overboard anyway
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 5:28 am to
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Will find no dope in said house

The current procedure of knock and announce is sufficient. There is a policy reason to prevent destruction of evidence





The amount of dope in a house that should justify an arrest warrant should not be an amount one can easily flush down the toilet or swallow.


Who gives a shite about someone having a few grams?

Plus, as was said: wait till they leave the house, then arrest them with the arrest warrant and then serve the search warrant on the empty house.


No reason to risk officer and civilian lives by ambushing people in the middle of the night.

Especially since the cops routinely frick up said "operations" and raid the wrong house.

But the police want to play Seal Team Six.

There is a man in Mississippi who got raided, shot at the people invading his house, killed the son of the sheriff (who was not trained to perform such raids), and was sentenced to death row.

The cops raided the wrong house.

Did that man deserve to be charged, much less convicted, with murder of a police officer and receive a death sentence?
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 5:31 am
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3156 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:11 am to
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The amount of dope in a house that should justify an arrest warrant should not be an amount one can easily flush down the toilet or swallow.



Pretty sure you can flush a lot of Cocaine or pills down a garbage disposal and toilet in a few minutes which leads to the next question. What is a fair amount of time to wait after knocking on the door?

Guess they could have the water department shut down the water prior to the raid.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13906 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:58 am to
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Rikieta law guy said it best

Government should FEAR the people.



They do which is why gov never stops growing.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67490 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:00 am to
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New Indiana law allows citizens to shoot cops who enter house illegally

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