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Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:17 pm to bobBoxer
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Can I assume Indiana does not permit no knock warrants? Otherwise a legal entry can look like an illegal one.
Can I assume Indiana does not permit no knock warrants? Otherwise a legal entry can look like an illegal one.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:20 pm to bobBoxer
Well since everyone has pointed out that it's a 7 year old law, any examples of it being applied?
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:21 pm to bobBoxer
I'm good with it. Come correct or don't come at all.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:26 pm to OWLFAN86
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the uniform and assumption of risk
but EVERYONE else understands this
So its legal for police to illegally enter your house?
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:38 pm to OweO
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So its legal for police to illegally enter your house?
Yeah, a funny little court-invented law called qualified immunity makes it to where cops can violate your rights and not be held accountable unless the very exact crime down to the nitty gritty has already been ruled on as a violation of rights.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:56 pm to bobBoxer
Why would this have to be a law? Unlawful is unlawful regardless of who it is.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 12:51 am to UndercoverBryologist
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A house is a person’s castle. If it is illegal entry, the cop should have no more legal protection than a common burglar
Get the warrant right. Don’t really have a problem with this type of law.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:06 am to UndercoverBryologist
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A house is a person’s castle. If it is illegal entry, the cop should have no more legal protection than a common burglar.
Arguably, if an agent of a government has entered your house illegally, a common burglar is likely present less risk to you than that agent.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:17 am to bobBoxer
Police got hit with that UNO reverse card and aren’t sure how to handle it
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:44 am to bobBoxer
You can use deadly force to resist unlawful arrest anywhere.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:50 am to bobBoxer
Swat raids should be illegal in the first place. They’re dangerous and stupid tactics that cops only use because they feel cool doing it. Arrest the motherfricker when he’s in the parking lot of McDonalds or something.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:19 am to bobBoxer
Why do they need to bust in? Hostage situation- ok, Armed man who they know will not go without a shootout - ok. Dope dealer - not ok, get a warrant and make sure you've announced loud enough to wake up the block. Same for routine fugitives from the law.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 5:01 am to mauser
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Dope dealer - not ok, get a warrant and make sure you've announced loud enough to wake up the bloc
Will find no dope in said house
The current procedure of knock and announce is sufficient. There is a policy reason to prevent destruction of evidence
Posted on 12/14/22 at 5:16 am to Proximo
quote:if the cops have enough evidence to get a warrant, do they really need the dope inside the house, and kicking someones door in over drugs is a bit overboard anyway
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Dope dealer - not ok, get a warrant and make sure you've announced loud enough to wake up the bloc
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Will find no dope in said house
The current procedure of knock and announce is sufficient. There is a policy reason to prevent destruction of evidence
Posted on 12/14/22 at 5:28 am to Proximo
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Will find no dope in said house
The current procedure of knock and announce is sufficient. There is a policy reason to prevent destruction of evidence
The amount of dope in a house that should justify an arrest warrant should not be an amount one can easily flush down the toilet or swallow.
Who gives a shite about someone having a few grams?
Plus, as was said: wait till they leave the house, then arrest them with the arrest warrant and then serve the search warrant on the empty house.
No reason to risk officer and civilian lives by ambushing people in the middle of the night.
Especially since the cops routinely frick up said "operations" and raid the wrong house.
But the police want to play Seal Team Six.
There is a man in Mississippi who got raided, shot at the people invading his house, killed the son of the sheriff (who was not trained to perform such raids), and was sentenced to death row.
The cops raided the wrong house.
Did that man deserve to be charged, much less convicted, with murder of a police officer and receive a death sentence?
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 5:31 am
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:11 am to magildachunks
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The amount of dope in a house that should justify an arrest warrant should not be an amount one can easily flush down the toilet or swallow.
Pretty sure you can flush a lot of Cocaine or pills down a garbage disposal and toilet in a few minutes which leads to the next question. What is a fair amount of time to wait after knocking on the door?
Guess they could have the water department shut down the water prior to the raid.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:58 am to Meauxjeaux
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Rikieta law guy said it best
Government should FEAR the people.
They do which is why gov never stops growing.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:00 am to bobBoxer
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New Indiana law allows citizens to shoot cops who enter house illegally
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