re: New details emerge on the LSP kiddie porn arrest

Producing means he was filming these acts? If so, he needs the death penalty if found guilty.

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And idiots like this throw it all away and give everyone in law enforcement a bad reputation.
Terrible.

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THIS.

This is why I'm so hard on law enforcement and am so often accused of being a police hater. It's just the opposite. I think it's a very serious job that requires very serious people. With great power comes the expectation of great responsibility. And I think we can all agree that law enforcement in this country have great power. Too much, in fact. Which makes it all that more important that we have incredible people in those positions that get paid accordingly. Unfortunately, all too often, a double-digit IQ and a high school diploma is all that's required.

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Merely possessing kiddie porn is one thing and something you could have a chance of arguing you were framed or negotiating for the best possible plea deal.

But producing and distributing? Especially under 13 years old? That is another thing entirely

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For sure.

I think it's important that people separate the two. You're talking about two completely different levels of what the frickery.

The first crime, while weird and gross, doesn't actually produce a victim and is likely done from your own home or personal devices but the other requires you to actually produce a victim and engage on a whole nother level. Not only is it weird and gross but it's ballsy and likely involves kidnapping. That's somebody that's a clear danger to society.

hang him high

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Producing means he was filming these acts? If so, he needs the death penalty if found guilty.

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Not necessarily.

Not 100% sure but I believe uploading images whether you filmed them or received them from someone else is considered producing.

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Oh sure, except for just, y'know, THE KIDS IN THE PORN

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Reading be hard.

I'm talking about in relation to a person who is charged with possession and not Distributing and producing. The person possessing doesn't create a victim. Only the person that produces.

He should kill himself.

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I’ll never understand why the mind of a pedo isn't scattered all over the wall.

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There is no cure or rehabilitation.

They should be removed from the gene pool.

Permanently.

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Dude. I know exactly what you’re TRYING to say, but logic be hard for some people. Possession of child pornography is still a crime with a victim, bc the CHILD IS STILL BEING EXPLOITED AND USED FOR PORNOGRAPHY - pornography that exists SOLELY for the pieces of shyte like this guy that consume it. There’s still a victim. Attempting to distance or disconnect the victim from the crime of even “just possession” is such a strange and weird stance to take.

People like this guy that exist create the market that creates the victims. His actions are literally creating victims. It’s a causal chain.

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I don't necessarily disagree with you. That was exactly the point I was going to make.

I look at it like this, possessing pictures or video of a murder isnt necessarily illegal. But murder obviously is. Possessing media of the murder isnt creating a victim.

Now I agree with you that in the case of pornography it's a little different because the original illegal action that creates the victim, production of the pronography, typically is done with the express intent of creating the media for distribution and viewing. That's why possession of that media is illegal and not possession of media of other crimes taking place.

You seem to be reacting as though I'm green-lighting possession of child pronography. I'm not. I'm simply stating that production is way more serious than possession and I used the creation and interaction of an actual real-life victim as my reasoning.

It's kind of like the difference of going after drug dealers versus drug users. What's the point in going after drug users? They're just doing what comes naturally to them even if most of us disagree with them. If you really want to make a dent in the industry then you have to go after those producing. That's where the supply chain starts.