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New Car & Dealership Question- Sales Associate Related

Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:09 pm
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4467 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:09 pm
Say you are purchasing a new car in the $30k range. What is more motivating to the sales associate? Motivation meaning willingness to complete a sale while still negotiating a favorable price for the buyer.

A buyer who finances through the dealership with a minimum down payment.

A buyer who secures outside financing but supplements with a larger down payment.

A buyer who dealer finances a minimal amount but avoids an all-cash payment.


Had a random thought about this today. Basically wondering if it's favorable for the sales associate to accept less or zero dealer financing if there is more upfront cash, and if the buyer can use one of those strategies to their advantage.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9316 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:11 pm to
Car salesmen don't care about your downpayment size. They only care about the overall agreed upon sales price. Why do they care if you put down $5,000 down now or $20,000?
Posted by Spunky
Member since Mar 2013
10020 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:11 pm to
Let me guess, you're 24 aren't you?
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
25492 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

A buyer who finances through the dealership with a minimum down payment.



Pretty sure that.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77981 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

if it's favorable for the sales associate to accept less or zero dealer financing if there is more upfront cash, and if the buyer can use one of those strategies to their advantage.


Sales associate isn't accepting anything. His boss is.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30028 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:17 pm to
they might be more amenable thinking they can make it up through financing tricks and by ripping you off with the trade in

what i do is, i negotiate the deal, telling them we will discuss my trade in and financing only after we have settled all details of the actual purchase price including TT&L. i even drop hints along the way if they are hesitating by saying i know they will make it up with the trade in and financing and that usually works for them.

then after the details are all in writing, i tell them i have no trade in and im paying cash or dont need any financing. every time i see it on their face they know i got the better of them.

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55478 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:18 pm to
A sales associate has absolutely no control over the numbers.

The only concern they have, really, is the OTD price as that is what their commission is based upon.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34479 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:19 pm to
The sales associate gets commission based on the overall profit for the dealership. That’s including financing, extended warranties, etc. If you finance with your bank, it means less profit for the dealership.

When you finance through the dealership, assume at least one point of your interest rate is going to them.
Posted by CajunInFL
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2007
1957 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:22 pm to
1 point? Lol
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8385 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:43 pm to
Car salesman,repairers,dealers and politicians are the scum of the earth.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

When you finance through the dealership, assume at least one point of your interest rate is going to them


Where do you people come up with this shite?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27414 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:49 pm to
quote:


A buyer who finances through the dealership with a minimum down payment.


Bingo.

Price matters less when they can sell payment.
Posted by Bucktail1
Member since Feb 2015
3188 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:50 pm to
Quit making up dumb shite
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97644 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:52 pm to
Dealership gets a commission on financing so they’d rather you do it with them. Sometimes you’ll get a rebate for financing through dealership but you can refinance it a week later.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27414 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

then after the details are all in writing, i tell them i have no trade in and im paying cash or dont need any financing. every time i see it on their face they know i got the better of them.


You think that is a negotiating tool that works?

Yes. You should always negotiate every single piece, but unless you're at a wholesaler, they still make money if you pay cash.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

Dealership gets a commission on financing so they’d rather you do it with them. Sometimes you’ll get a rebate for financing through dealership but you can refinance it a week later.



Non of this has anything to do with the sales guy
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:53 pm to
It cracks me up to hear old baws say “cash” like they’ll get a better deal.

Dealerships & manufacturers make most of their money on financing.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27414 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Non of this has anything to do with the sales guy


Most sales guys are paid a percentage of backend sales and their primary commission is made up of front.

Meaning.. If they get you to finance, and still hold the rebate, the boosted their front by the rebate.

Stick to things you understand. Like performing fellatio and drinking low calorie alcoholic beverages.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

Meaning.. If they get you to finance, and still hols the rebate, the voosted their front by the rebate.


Engrish pwease
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27414 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 5:59 pm to
Please note time of corrected post.

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