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re: Need the Wisdom of the OT.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:31 am to Revorising
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:31 am to Revorising
Were you satisfied, content before finding this out? If so, I wouldn’t let it bother you. People come in at different times under different circumstances. They’ll always be someone out there making more than their worth for whatever reason.
If you feel fairly paid and content, then perhaps wait until the next review period to bring up a promotion or pay raise more than the norm. Have documentation of your position and industry averages. Otherwise, be careful what you wish for. Keeping up with the Joneses isn’t always the best outcome.
Back any request up with data and analytics. Don’t take the “I heard such and such” approach or I just want a raise because I’m a cry baby take.
If you feel fairly paid and content, then perhaps wait until the next review period to bring up a promotion or pay raise more than the norm. Have documentation of your position and industry averages. Otherwise, be careful what you wish for. Keeping up with the Joneses isn’t always the best outcome.
Back any request up with data and analytics. Don’t take the “I heard such and such” approach or I just want a raise because I’m a cry baby take.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 9:34 am
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:31 am to White Bear
Are you happy with your job? Were you good with your salary prior to learning of your colleague? if so stay and try to negotiate a higher salary if not find another opportunity while still employed
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:32 am to Revorising
If ya'll do the same thing 20K is a big issue.
He may have been woofing though
He may have been woofing though
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:34 am to Revorising
Don't worry about what others are making, worry about what you are making.
If you feel you should make more and you are ready to find another job, then of course, speak to the manager.
If you feel you should make more and you are ready to find another job, then of course, speak to the manager.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:34 am to Revorising
take a page out of Ignatius J. Reilly's play book. round up a decent sized mob and march them into upper management for a proper coup d'etat.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:37 am to i am dan
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Does he have more job responsibility than you? Maybe something you don't know about?
This could be a factor. I’m one of a team of product managers where I work. But make more than the others because I have a team of direct reports while the others don’t.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:39 am to Revorising
Piggybacking on this topic, perspective on starting a new job: Do you prefer to assert yourself right away, or do you take a couple of months to settle in?
I recently began working as an estimator and was told I’d have about a year to learn the ropes with minimal responsibilities. However, only six weeks in, I’m already handling multiple projects each week. This is my first professional office job, so I’m curious if stepping up so quickly could lead to tension with colleagues or if it’s generally welcomed.
I recently began working as an estimator and was told I’d have about a year to learn the ropes with minimal responsibilities. However, only six weeks in, I’m already handling multiple projects each week. This is my first professional office job, so I’m curious if stepping up so quickly could lead to tension with colleagues or if it’s generally welcomed.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:43 am to Revorising
If you want more money, you either ask your employer to give you more money out of the goodness of their corporate heart or you leverage your willingness to leave and get another job.
If your employer isn’t faced with the prospect of whatever it costs them to replace you, why would they pay you any more than the amount you’ve been willing to work for all this time?
If your employer isn’t faced with the prospect of whatever it costs them to replace you, why would they pay you any more than the amount you’ve been willing to work for all this time?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:46 am to Liger43
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I recently began working as an estimator and was told I’d have about a year to learn the ropes with minimal responsibilities. However, only six weeks in, I’m already handling multiple projects each week. This is my first professional office job, so I’m curious if stepping up so quickly could lead to tension with colleagues or if it’s generally welcomed.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:47 am to Darth_Vader
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Go to your manager and ask for a talk. But before doing so, you need to put together your case as to why you should receive a raise. And that reason can’t be because this other guy is making $20k more than you. You have to make the case that the value you bring to the company is worth (X) dollar more than what you’re being paid now. It’s up to you to make the case. And I’d make sure you lay out your case in a professional, non-emotional manner, backed up with facts and figures. Best of luck to you.
Sorry, but all else equal with poster doing the same exact job as his co-worker, then the burden is NOT on the poster to prove his worth, it’s on his employer to justify why he is being paid 20k less than his coworker.
I’d have an honest conversation with the boss, but have an exit strategy.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:50 am to Warfox
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Sorry, but all else equal with poster doing the same exact job as his co-worker, then the burden is NOT on the poster to prove his worth, it’s on his employer to justify why he is being paid 20k less than his coworker.
If he goes into a meeting with his manager with that attitude, he has zero chance of getting a raise. In fact, all it will do is reflect poorly on himself and quite possibly hurt his standing with the company. He’d be better off either settling for what he makes now or just turning in his resignation than this approach.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:50 am to Revorising
Start updating your resume, check open jobs about your level/location, and make your pitch on a big raise. As a tip, don't just say "well Tim makes 20k more than me". You have absolutely no way of verifying that, and even if you do, so what? If HR and management already knew this and did nothing, it's not exactly great argument fuel.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:52 am to Darth_Vader
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Sorry, but all else equal with poster doing the same exact job as his co-worker, then the burden is NOT on the poster to prove his worth, it’s on his employer to justify why he is being paid 20k less than his coworker.
If he goes into a meeting either his manager with that attitude, he has zero chance of getting a raise. In fact, all it will do is reflect poorly on himself and quite possibly hurt his standing with the company. He’d be better off either settling for what he makes now or just turning in his r
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:54 am to Revorising
There's a chance your colleague is FOS... I have a good friend who exaggerates everything. Years ago he got a job making 80k but he told me 100k (I saw his w2). Same guy bench pressed 315 max. I know because I spotted him. But if you ask him he will tell you he benches 350. He's not a bad guy. He just exaggerates.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:55 am to Revorising
Is he better looking... a handsome fella?
Well there you go. Uggos make less.
Yes, you can ask for a raise.
You can, also, ask the purse holder if he wants to honestly and bluntly tell you why and them you declare you are going to do what it takes to earn par pay.
If he doesn't have a reason why the other is worth $20k more (or you $20k less... could be either) then your employer is suspect.
Well there you go. Uggos make less.
Yes, you can ask for a raise.
You can, also, ask the purse holder if he wants to honestly and bluntly tell you why and them you declare you are going to do what it takes to earn par pay.
If he doesn't have a reason why the other is worth $20k more (or you $20k less... could be either) then your employer is suspect.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:07 am to Revorising
Perhaps he is bluffing hoping that you run to management and demand a raise resulting in your firing and him getting a raise to fill your role too.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:12 am to Revorising
What % does the $20k make up? Asking for a <10% raise is one thing. If you're a cashier at HEB, just don't make a scene when they call security to escort you out. Probably a good move to pre-pack your belongings.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:15 am to MizunoDude
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Perhaps he is bluffing hoping that you run to management and demand a raise resulting in your firing and him getting a raise to fill your role too.
my dad owned a pretty good sized business, he had a policy of that employees do not discuss their compensation with each other, never quite understood that but it was a termination level offense, realistically I know everyone knew what everyone was making and I never heard of anyone getting canned over it, I just thought that was an unusual policy
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:17 am to Revorising
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Been at my workplace for 12 years.
Yeah, this is how it happens my brother. I am not saying do not be loyal, but they do take advantage of the long-term employees.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:17 am to Revorising
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I feel the need to speak to management
yeah, don't do this. This will end badly. for you and your coworker.
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