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re: Natural gas infrastructure not built for generator demand

Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:21 am to
Posted by Finnish
Member since Nov 2021
630 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:21 am to
Dumb by municipalities to keep issuing permits for install if the infrastructure can’t handle it.
Posted by cajunandy
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
801 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:22 am to
we have had a whole house propane generator for awhile. After Hurricane Ida we could not get the Propane company on the phone for a refill. They simply disappeared. And we were a regular customer. Luckily we got power back(3 days) before we ran out.

Note if you get into a bind and need a generator, check out the local equipment rental companies and get a 4000watt light tower. the generator should have a few plug outlets both 110 and 220. Just leave the lights off. They also run on diesel.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
137969 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:23 am to
Chad is a fricking idiot of the highest level.

Ask him who shot Trump.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
4559 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:24 am to
I know he is. I still want to correct obvious BS when he states it.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74439 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Was this not an issue after Ida? Why now?


To some extent it was. After Gustav in BR Highland road residents experienced the same thing. Believe their main lines were later upgraded.

A lot of New Orleans has had their mainlines upgraded to help with this.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2152 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Dumb by municipalities to keep issuing permits for install if the infrastructure can’t handle it.


Exactly. But they just want the fees collected from permits, they don’t care if you have A/C or not
Posted by Out da box
Member since Feb 2018
602 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:32 am to
Order propane tank. Change offices in generator.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40061 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Do the news outlets only have one person to interview? I remember her name being all over the St. George opposition.


She sued to stop SG and reverse the election,
She needs to go away, but now she’s some special adviser to the mayor.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
27419 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Then you have to have a big arse ugly propane tank on your property



Don't most bury the tanks?
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2161 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 11:00 am to
30k diesel Katolight, 210g diesel on hand. Had no problem with the NG problem!
Posted by 385 Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
266 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 11:23 am to
How long does stored diesel last?
Posted by GVT
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2004
985 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 11:40 am to
Why can't people just suffer for a few days like in the past. It builds character. It's as if nobody can be uncomfortable for a few hours, dang. 20k to avoid being uncomfortable for a few hours every 5 years seems ridiculous to me.
Posted by MrBobDobalina
BRo.LA
Member since Oct 2011
3155 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 11:58 am to
But muh intranet
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
2069 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 12:01 pm to
My solar panels and batteries looking better all the time
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2161 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

How long does stored diesel last?
2 years with stabil treatment. I just pump it into my truck and use it
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25525 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

My solar panels and batteries looking better all the time


Ida ripped the panels and caused holes in the roof of an acquaintance of mine. He would have had no water damage if it had not been from the holes left by the panels being ripped off.
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1394 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 1:11 pm to
I've drained diesel out of equipment that was 10 years or more old and used it without issue. It will form a layer of water and crud on the bottom you have to drain off but the diesel itself is fine.

Just couldn't bring myself to throw out hundreds of gallons of diesel I recovered from old heavy equipment. I can't speak for the more modern diesel engines with electronic nannies but old school diesels will burn damn near anything for fuel

If you want to run diesel make sure to install your holding tank on a slight incline towards a drain valve. That way you can drain off condensation and crud every so often. I also make sure the pick up is a good ways off the bottom of the tank.
This post was edited on 9/14/24 at 1:13 pm
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11434 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 1:40 pm to
She ran Together BR and is now Broome’s campaign manager.

This post was edited on 9/14/24 at 2:27 pm
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
13282 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 1:49 pm to
Gas load for a typical 2000 sq/ft house

Dryer - 35,000 BTU
Range - 65,000-100,000 BTU (all burners on)
Oven - 80,000 BTU
50 gal water heater - 50,000 BTU
Gas lamps (x2) - 8,000 BTU
Gas furnace - 75,000 - 100,000 BTU


22kW generac at full load - 301,000 BTU

Using the generator doubles the houses gas usage. And with diversity (not all the appliances on at once) the impact of a generator is way more then double what was designed by the local utilities

EDIT: when Ida hit and power was out, my gas stove had a weak flame and instead of full blue had a lot of yellow and orange (indicating bad fuel/air mix)

So u can tell there was gas issues. Luckily this past week we lost power for 30 min


This post was edited on 9/14/24 at 2:05 pm
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
28700 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 2:46 pm to
We come off of the feeder line to the nearest city 21 miles away.

As a result, 30 homes have the same available flow as about 15000 homes.

According to our utility guys, unless we all start running a few hundred gen sets a piece, there is zero chance of flow drop.
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