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re: National Cathedral being broadcast nationally with a female priest overseeing Christmas.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:35 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:35 pm to BluegrassBelle
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A female, Baptist pastor resided over multiple weddings and funerals in my family.
1 Timothy 2:12 ESV
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
1 Corinthians 14:33-36 ESV
For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.
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The word of God is still the word of God.
Of course. But the above citations are also the "Word of God".
FWIW, I attended a Baptist Church for several years.
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Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:36 pm to BigAppleTiger
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BigAppleTiger
I don’t have a dog in the fight, but quoting the Old Testament isn’t doing what you think that it’s doing.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:38 pm to Darth_Vader
But the scriptures are also clear on the role of women in the Church…
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1 Timothy 2:11-12: "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent".
1 Corinthians 14:34-35: "Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home".
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Those aren’t my words, those are the word’s from the scripture. Our opinion on the matter really doesn’t matter. ..Downvote it, scream at it, do whatever you like. The Bible says why it says and we can either accept it or not.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:40 pm to _Hurricane_
It’s a moot point to me anyway since I’m atheist. But I’m not sure it’s ever really explicitly stated in the Bible that priests have to be male. That’s just a Catholic tradition stemming from the fact that Jesus (assuming he existed at all) was male.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:43 pm to UFFan
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Jesus (assuming he existed at all)
Now you’ve done it.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:47 pm to BigAppleTiger
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Exodus 21:7-11
New Living Translation
7 “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.
I will take your daughter for 3 shekels please.
Had you looked into this further, you would see this was pertaining to the Israelites under the Mosaic covenant, not Christians under Christ's covenant.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:47 pm to Mo Jeaux
Mainline Protestant churches are super woke the further you get away from the original Church the more diluted it becomes.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:55 pm to gmac8604
Cool it with the anti-Semitism, bro. Some of the Jewish people on this website might be upset at how you’re arguing the Old Testament doesn’t matter.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:58 pm to gmac8604
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Had you looked into this further, you would see this was pertaining to the Israelites under the Mosaic covenant, not Christians under Christ's covenant.
Attempted gotchas are impervious to the fact that Christians no longer live under the law.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:58 pm to _Hurricane_
Aren’t yall dominated by shvtty Latin Americans?
Posted on 12/25/25 at 1:00 pm to _Hurricane_
Im not going to say its going to be a regular for me to listen to a female preach a mass or serman. In My experience, Most of all them I know live in a drastically, different reality than Me.
Im not saying what they are preaching doesnt have merit, but for me, on a regular basis, i dont feel its applicable.
Same group telling me pitbulls are just sweet caring misunderstood peaceful dogs.
Im not saying what they are preaching doesnt have merit, but for me, on a regular basis, i dont feel its applicable.
Same group telling me pitbulls are just sweet caring misunderstood peaceful dogs.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 1:05 pm to _Hurricane_
For who can denie but it repugneth to nature, that the blind shal be appointed to leade and conduct such as do see? That the weake, the sicke, and impotent persones shall norishe and kepe the hole and strong, and finallie, that the foolishe, madde and phrenetike shal gouerne the discrete, and giue counsel to such as be sober of mind? And such be al women, compared vnto man in bearing of authoritie. For their sight in ciuile regiment, is but blindnes: their strength, weaknes: their counsel, foolishenes: and judgement, phrenesie, if it be rightlie considered.
-John Knox
The First Blast of the Trumpet Against the Monstrous Regime of Women
-John Knox
The First Blast of the Trumpet Against the Monstrous Regime of Women
Posted on 12/25/25 at 1:06 pm to High C
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Attempted gotchas are impervious to the fact that Christians no longer live under the law.
Uhh... what? What attempted gotcha and what Christians don't live under the law? If someone claims to be a Christian, yet doesn't strive to live their life by God's word, are they really a Christian?
You're either a Saint or you ain't.
This post was edited on 12/25/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 12/25/25 at 1:06 pm to Darth_Vader
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But the scriptures are also clear on the role of women in the Church…
That’s a surface level understanding of those scriptures and you’re failing to include the context of when and why they were written.
Why do you accept those verses as literal instructions for modern day and ignore Romans 16:1, Romans 16:7, and Acts 18:26?
I might accept that there’s little evidence of scripture to support women in a head role of leadership in the church (a female pope for example). But to preach, counsel, shepherd, and pastor can all be argued as biblically accurate.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 1:11 pm to gmac8604
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gmac8604
Are you retarded?
Posted on 12/25/25 at 1:11 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Are you retarded?
No, are you?
Posted on 12/25/25 at 1:12 pm to gmac8604
No, but if you aren’t, why are you saying retarded things?
Posted on 12/25/25 at 1:14 pm to Mo Jeaux
What was not understandable that you had to be bring up chromosome counts?
Posted on 12/25/25 at 1:19 pm to gmac8604
Chromosome counts? Are you under the impression that the adjective “retarded” only (or ever solely did) refers to someone with Down syndrome?
I understood your statement very well, but it was dumb. It shows that you have no knowledge of the historical development of Christianity. You could start with Galatians if you want a refresher.
I understood your statement very well, but it was dumb. It shows that you have no knowledge of the historical development of Christianity. You could start with Galatians if you want a refresher.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 1:32 pm to gmac8604
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Attempted gotchas are impervious to the fact that Christians no longer live under the law.
Uhh... what? What attempted gotcha and what Christians don't live under the law? If someone claims to be a Christian, yet doesn't strive to live their life by God's word, are they really a Christian?
I’m sorry that this confuses you.
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