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re: NASA sets tentative launch date for Artemis 1 - August 29, 2022

Posted on 7/24/22 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 1:32 pm to
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Jan 17, 1870
I guess this is your example of a lunar eclipse during the day in Greenwich?

According to the info you provided, the eclipse ended at 4:36pm in Greenwich. On January 17, 1870, the sunset lasted from 4:17 to 4:22pm in Greenwich. And according to the chart you posted, sure enough Greenwich caught a glimpse of the last minutes of penumbral eclipse as the moon was rising in the east.

Opposite. Horizons. Bro.


How long did you have to search for this info which proved me right?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 1:44 pm to
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But school said everyone knew since Columbus
who was only able to navigate across the atlantic using a system that is built on the assumption that the earth is round lmao
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 1:53 pm to
It was earlier than that! I worked SLS for 3 years...
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 2:15 pm to
It says it began at noon. Anyways

Explain how the chart path works. Is the darkest shade totality path? Should it be able to be seen in the white areas?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 2:18 pm to
Naaaaah, will establish settlements, then give out Sec. 8 vouchers and ruin the place
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 2:27 pm to
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It says it began at noon.
Yes it began at noon GMT... on the other side of the world.
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Explain how the chart path works. Is the darkest shade totality path? Should it be able to be seen in the white areas?
The dark areas cannot see the eclipse at all. The light areas can see the eclipse from start to finish. The shades of gray see portions of the eclipse as the moon rises and sets.
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 2:39 pm to
Thank you. I'm gonna look more into eclipses using this site. NASA, surprise surprise, does not give good info. The most informative eclipse resources seem to be astrology sites, that show plenty of daytime historical lunar eclipses. But I have a feeling you won't accept them.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 2:52 pm to
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Then there this colony will be, the last remnants of earthlings and mankind.


Nah, the giants that live on the dark side of the moon will slaughter the colony rather quickly.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 3:03 pm to
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Why is NASA using the SpaceX Starship as the lunar landing vehicle. Why not just contract SpaceX to conduct the entire mission since they’re already going to be sending several Starships to the moon anyway?


NASA is using Starship for two reasons:
1) SpaceX’s demonstrated track record in delivering vehicles at a reasonable price
2) Starship has the potential to transport and return significantly more mass than any other vehicle

Regarding your second question - because there are so many special interests involved in keeping SLS alive. Congress is using it as a jobs program for their districts. If one was to look at it objectively, Starship would be the slam dunk choice. The cost to launch Starship is a fraction of SLS, and is reusable, whereas SLS isn’t. In addition, SLS requires the use of the lunar gateway (even more $), while Starship should be able to fly directly to the lunar surface. Another example of Congress wasting billions of taxpayer $’s.

There’s also conjecture that the administration is slow walking approval of the Starship launch simply to make SLS look better.
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 3:05 pm to
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I'm gonna look more into eclipses using this site. NASA, surprise surprise, does not give good info.
Eclipses can be calculated by amateurs, and have been for a very long time. Why would NASA need to provide that info?
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The most informative eclipse resources seem to be astrology sites, that show plenty of daytime historical lunar eclipses. But I have a feeling you won't accept them.
If they are accurate, what's not to accept? I accept any and all factual information.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5618 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 3:22 pm to
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Eclipses can be calculated by amateurs, and have been for a very long time.
Yes, long before heliocentrism. There seem to be discrepancies between sites. I want historical data. This eclipsed definitely happened, not according to the math but to the witnesses. An organization can say one occurred or didn't, they could conceivably use derived functions that would accurately predict them in the short term but incorrect historically. It's something I've got to dive into and cross check with archives
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:25 pm to
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This eclipsed definitely happened, not according to the math but to the witnesses. An organization can say one occurred or didn't, they could conceivably use derived functions that would accurately predict them in the short term but incorrect historically. It's something I've got to dive into and cross check with archives
Instead of hunting for a totally believable eyewitness account of an impossible event, you could probably save yourself a lot of time by learning basic geometry so that you can recognize nonsense as nonsense.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5618 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:27 pm to
I know basic geometry. Even calculus and diff eq's. Very well. Thank you douchenozzle.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:50 pm to
You sure? Because if you do then it should be easy to prove to yourself that the earth is a sphere.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5618 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:55 pm to
Applied geometry does not. No sir

A geometrical proof on paper can be perfectly valid. That does not make it the truth of the physical nature of the universe.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 5:32 pm to
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Applied geometry does not. No sir
Yes sir, it does.
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A geometrical proof on paper can be perfectly valid. That does not make it the truth of the physical nature of the universe.
I'm talking about taking real measurements yourself and working out solutions.

I understand that you would totally believe an eyewitness account from hundreds of years ago of an impossible event as gospel, but that you wouldn't believe an eyewitness account from someone alive today that you can speak to, so there may be some travel involved for you.

As I suggested earlier, you yourself can measure shadows at two different latitudes at solar noon at the same time of year, and work out a presumed altitude of the sun. Then do it a third time, preferably north of the 45th parallel to minimize your error, and then figure out why you measure a different altitude for the sun. There is only one conclusion to be drawn.

You can also visit the lower latitudes on opposite sides of your flat earth map, and verify yourself that you can indeed see the same set of stars rotating about the same point in the sky at both locations. You can also verify yourself that they are not shifting in a manner that would allow them to be seen from the other side only hours later in the exact opposite "south" direction. Again, there is only one conclusion to be drawn from this.

Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5618 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 6:33 pm to
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I'm talking about taking real measurements yourself and working out solutions.
Yes. Like the geometry of a sphere with real world measurements and observations. Yes! That's what I've advocated for from the beginning. Get to it.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3136 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 6:43 pm to
No, but reddit has Clubber Langes sisters nudes
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 6:54 pm to
We on this shite again?


Can we get a Flat Earther board? Or go make a flat earther thread on the Poliboard with the other Looney tunes
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 6:54 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 7:10 pm to
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Yes. Like the geometry of a sphere with real world measurements and observations. Yes! That's what I've advocated for from the beginning. Get to it.
Done. I've taken my own measurements in the past, and they are in agreement with measurements taken by others. Turns out the earth is, in fact, a sphere. Basic geometry proves that our observed measurements cannot be reproduced on a flat surface.

If only you would do the same, what you advocate for.
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