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Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:57 am to
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It's not a white thing or a black thing or anything to do with race. It's a culture and a mindset.


Lack of self awareness, and acceptance of responsibility need to be thrown in there too.
Human beings are born with all the tools they need, but they often(more often lately) let others convince them that their shortcomings can be blamed on someone else.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179177 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:58 am to
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I dont understand why we cant all just say what we mean here .




What do you want him to say? You are trying to bait him into saying get rid of black people or something?

Do you deny that black people create an overwhelming portion of violent crime?

If he says something "racist" will that satisfy your witch hunt while ignoring the statistical facts that have been posted?
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5010 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:59 am to
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it is an overwhelmingly black male thing.



I agree with this too .

We can discuss ad nauseum about the root causes, and the ‘whys’- but statistics show this to be the case.. But since i am all about SOLUTIONS- im dying to know what certain posters seem to think are “obvious cures” to, you know- actually DO SOMETHING about the problem and not just bitch and moan about it .
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133158 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:59 am to
The top one is one of those where they lump Hispanics in as white, to manipulate the numbers, huh?


I'm fine with that, but there are some definite cultural differences that breaking it down further May reveal
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30865 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:59 am to
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This is a (mostly) anonymous message board .

If you have a firm belief , a conviction about something- then i dont understand all the pussyfooting around in this thread .. Let’s all just be honest with each other .


Bitch, you are glowing like you just got home from Chernobyl.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20416 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:00 am to
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Literally discussed on page 1 or 2

You’re literally making my point. The more pertinent topic was a blip on the 8+ page thread.

Glad y’all got it out of the way though. Now you can go back to your hackneyed conversation about constitutional rights and gun ownership.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179177 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:00 am to
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Sure but there are historical issues at play


Sure is and it can be traced back to welfare policies creating the urban ghettos you describe
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465252 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:00 am to
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Lack of self awareness, and acceptance of responsibility need to be thrown in there too.
Human beings are born with all the tools they need, but they often(more often lately) let others convince them that their shortcomings can be blamed on someone else.

This is way too generic and vague.

You're dealing with populations of people who are multiple generations removed from not being in the LCM. If you lose the birth lottery and are born to one of these families, you're almost assuredly fricked b/c of how you're raised.

That's why there isn't an easy solution. You have to completely remove children from this culture (which means their parents) to raise them away from the LCM. That isn't easy or even legal, currently.
Posted by SOLA
There
Member since Mar 2014
3704 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:01 am to
Have they id’d the shooter?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55424 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:01 am to
There's another thread in the OT today of a group of "youths" causing chaos in Chicago.

You don't see the lefties in that thread. Interesting.

In that situation, not many guns were involved but mass chaos still took place.

Oh and those racist demographics.

What we need, clearly, is common sense Democrat Voter Control.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465252 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:02 am to
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You’re literally making my point. The more pertinent topic was a blip on the 8+ page thread.

More pertinent topic? No.

Also, I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you. It's not really a topic of discussion b/c there isn't an argument.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179177 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:02 am to
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If you lose the birth lottery and are born to one of these families, you're almost assuredly fricked b/c of how you're raised.



Yes, the culture isn't changing on its own anytime soon.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179177 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:03 am to
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Have they id’d the shooter?




Twitter says they have and he is on the run
Posted by Tusksup
Sheridan, AR
Member since Feb 2023
1520 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:04 am to
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I dont understand why we cant all just say what we mean here .

If we all know, why does it need to be said?
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5010 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:04 am to
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You are trying to bait him into saying get rid of black people or something?




We have mostly all agreed here that black males are perpetrating most of these things- the stats say so- all i keep trying to get at is what do we do ? You said ‘get rid of black people’ is what i want him to say .. trust me, i dont WANT him to say a gotdam thing, im just trying to figure out what certain posters think the SOLUTION is , since they think it’s so obvious .. and if it’s ‘getting rid of blacks’ or whatever, then how does one propose that we actually DO what they think we should do ?? I am all about solutions, not obfuscating or being all secretive about what we should do, like some gotdam 3rd grader .
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49608 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:05 am to
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Sure The people in here are arguing for more. That "more" is illegal


That’s your law speak. Like what the definition of is is. It’s just muddying the waters which is why the discussions go round and round with nothing more than he said she said.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:05 am to
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that requires a lot more thought and effort and thought, and time to cool down and have second thoughts


Something tells me 1) you have no idea how easy it is to make explosive materials and 2) if anger resolution skills suck so badly someone commits a mass murder, it's insane to blame the gun. I could see this argument in a domestic dispute, but in this situation it's comically idiotic.
Posted by 92Tiger
Member since Dec 2015
615 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:06 am to
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This is incorrect. The M16A2 came with the semi, burst and FA, the M4 was the next version with semi, burst and FA, then the M4A1 came out around 2012 with semi and FA only.


You friggin draft dodging maggot, you make me want to vomit. The M16A2 is only capable of 3-round bursts and semi automatic fire. It is a light weight, magazine fed, gas operated, should fired weapon, with an effective range of 500 yards for point targets, and 800 yards of area target, and a sustained rate of fire of 12-15 rounds per minute.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21954 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:07 am to
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BK Lounge



Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179177 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 9:07 am to
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The top one is one of those where they lump Hispanics in as white, to manipulate the numbers, huh?




Probably. I just linked the first one. I think white people, without Hispanics counted in, are responsible for like 33% of all murders.
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