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re: My pipes froze (because I'm a dumbass) UPDATE page 3
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:51 pm to terd ferguson
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:51 pm to terd ferguson
god damnit....I finally get my pipes fixed and water running and noticed water leaking from the back of my refrigerator....so I pull it out and what do you know, the water intake valve for icemaker is cracked and water going everywhere.....
Go back outside, turn off the main.....take off the valve and call around to find a new valve......go to 2 different appliance stores in metairie with a shite ton of traffic and closed interstate...no luck...gotta order a new one.....now I have to cap the water line because there's no main shutoff on the water line going to the fridge
what a fricking clusterfrick
Go back outside, turn off the main.....take off the valve and call around to find a new valve......go to 2 different appliance stores in metairie with a shite ton of traffic and closed interstate...no luck...gotta order a new one.....now I have to cap the water line because there's no main shutoff on the water line going to the fridge
what a fricking clusterfrick
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 12:56 pm
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:54 pm to White Roach
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The recommended temperature range should be on the label of the PVC cement in tiny print that nobody reads. My guess would be not below 40 or 50 degrees, but that's just a guess.
I read the label but it only had cure time for something like 60-100 degrees. It had a blurb about anything outside that range would require more cure time. I tried Google and found everything from 1 hour to 6 hours for 30 degrees. I went with 1 hour.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:55 pm to tgrbaitn08
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god damnit....I finally get my pipes fixed and water running and noticed water leaking from the back of my refrigerator....so I pull it out and what do you know, the water intake valve for icemaker is cracked and water going everywhere.....
Go back outside, turn off the main.....take off the valve and call around to find a new valve......go to 2 different appliance stores in metairie with a shite ton of traffic and closed interstate...no luck...gotta order a new one.....now I have to cap the water line because there's no main shutoff
frick that sucks. How the hell did it freeze inside the house?
You don't have a quick shutoff valve behind the fridge?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:56 pm to UPT
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Hit that shite with some FlexSeal and learn the word, “icicle.”
I thought flex seal was just for repairing boats that got cut in half.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:57 pm to terd ferguson
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frick that sucks. How the hell did it freeze inside the house?
frick if I know...I dont even think it froze...it's the little blue plastic piece of the valve
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You don't have a quick shutoff valve behind the fridge?
no but I'm about to
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:58 pm to tgrbaitn08
Strange. Where does the line tie into? I would assume the feed for the kitchen. Were those frozen at all?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:00 pm to redstick13
the round part all the way to the right was cracked
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:01 pm to redstick13
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Strange. Where does the line tie into? I would assume the feed for the kitchen. Were those frozen at all?
yes, the line to the kitchen sink and dishwasher were frozen, as well as the bathroom in the kitchen area
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:07 pm to madmaxvol
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If you can replace the whole line with PEX...do it. It can freeze solid and thaw without bursting. You can use Shark Bite connections and not worry about glue.
Yep.
We had a few of the hot water lines freeze last night (oddly none did the night before) and I had to get up there with a hair dryer and extension cord this morning to open them up. One had an exposed section where it came up out of the insulation for bit, that was the frozen spot, the other felt like it froze closer to the manifold, which was easier to get to.
Nothing burst, fortunately.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:15 pm to madmaxvol
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If you can replace the whole line with PEX...do it. It can freeze solid and thaw without bursting.
Alright - can somebody explain the concept here? This is the 3rd time I've heard PEX referenced during this cold snap and none of the folks that recommended it could tell me why it doesn't burst. They generally just say "PEX doesn't freeze".
First off, no piping bursts because the pipe freezes. It bursts because the water inside the pipe freezes.
Is it just not rigid pipe? Or is it rigid with expansion joints or something?
I feel dumb I've never heard of this stuff.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:28 pm to Fe_Mike
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Alright - can somebody explain the concept here?
It's high density polyethylene... it can and does freeze (well, the water inside does), but it will stretch with the expanding water rather than burst, then regain its initial shape.
Basically, it's flexible enough to withstand the water inside freezing without doing damage.
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Is it just not rigid pipe? Or is it rigid with expansion joints or something?
It's semi-rigid tubing. It's certainly not flexible like a garden hose, but it does have some give to it as well.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:31 pm to Socrates Johnson
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The world calls these icicles.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:38 pm to TeddyPadillac
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well if the pipes were inside the walls, they probably wouldn't have frozen
Probably being the key word.
Interior pipes freeze as well.
I am handling about 40 frozen pipe claims right now and they are all inside the house, some in attics, some in exterior walls
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:39 pm to jlovel7
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High in New Orleans
Great name for an alter. Hold on.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:47 pm to Fe_Mike
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Is it just not rigid pipe? Or is it rigid with expansion joints or something?
PEX may be marginally better than copper when it comes to freezing. But you still need to insulate it. But most "burst pipes" from freezing I have seen are at joints and I have seen sharkbite joints burst/leak after a freeze. If you properly insulate your pipes, whether copper or pex, you shouldn't have a problem. Its been down to 8 degrees here and I have a pier & beam house but all pipes are wrapped. I do drip faucets as a precaution if its going to below freezing for over 24 hours.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:55 pm to fr33manator
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Get some hand warmers and tape them to the line about 6” apart. Should thaw it
But don't hand warmers have to be shaken to create the reaction that emits heat? Just taping them to a pipe isn't going to make them heat up.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:57 pm to tiggerthetooth
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But don't hand warmers have to be shaken to create the reaction that emits heat? Just taping them to a pipe isn't going to make them heat up.
I believe that's only to start the initial reaction. After that you're good to go. Sounds like you've been walking around looking like you're jerking off ghosts every time you use hand warmers tho.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 2:09 pm to jlovel7
Duck Brand Wrap Fix tape may hold it for a long time but will certainly allow for a temporary fix. I have had very good luck with it. Wal-Mart usually keeps it in stock. Here is the link:
Duck Brand
Duck Brand
Posted on 1/18/18 at 2:22 pm to tgrbaitn08
Are you sure there is no shutoff? In my old house it wasn't near the fridge, but I went in the attic and traced the line and found the shut off at the source.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:38 pm to tgrbaitn08
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yes, the line to the kitchen sink and dishwasher were frozen, as well as the bathroom in the kitchen area
You might want to double check under your kitchen sink, especially if the fridge is near it. Ice maker supply lines are often tied into your cold water faucet supply line, ABOVE the valve. It might not be easy to see at first glance. But if it's up there, you can close the valve at the sink to stop the leak instead of cutting off water to the entire house.
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