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my experiences dealing with a flooded home
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:46 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:46 am
i've seen a few threads on re-construction, moisture content etc etc...
my house flooded in March on the Tchefuncte river and my in-laws flooded off of Millerville a week ago, so i know what alot of you are going thru...i also am a home builder and maybe i can share my experiences and answer some questions..maybe i can help.
moisture content in wood - a general rule of thumb when closing up walls is to get your MC below 20%. Ideally you'd like to get to 16-17%, but depending on conditions and tightness of your home you may not be able to achieve this. talk to anyone outside of La and they will tell you below 10 percent...well guess what, you will never achieve that in south La. if you're running dehu's for a week and your readings are not dropping below 19-20% you may have to decide that is your baseline and call it quits. if your readings are still dropping, keep going until you get 48 hrs of a baseline reading. my house is raised with a wood subfloor so i had a lot of moisture to pull out before i could close it up.
mold-- i sprayed my house with microban (do not use bleach) when everything was dry and had still residual 'musty smell' that my wife just would not live with. we had the house tested and turned out we had two problem areas we had to address. long story short, we ended up fogging the house with a silver nitrate/hydrogen peroxide solution...problem solved. they charge by the cubic foot, not the sqft. had it re-tested and mold levels dropped and we were ready to close up walls.
moral of the story...don't be in a rush. just b/c your neighbor is closing up walls doesn't mean your falling behind and 'oh my god'!!!! we're such slackers. be patient, take your time. 1-3 weeks now will save you a huge headache down the road. move at your pace!, not some imaginery pace set by friends and family.
insurance-- our policy was\is with ASI. i have nothing but good things to say. some of you that have already been adjusted or still waiting...be prepared to wait a lengthy time before getting your check. La state law requires time frames for adjusters to respond to your claims...but during natural disasters, those time frames are waved. from the time our adjuster came and we rec'd his report back was 60 days!! and then another week to present it to the ins company and get paid. this was the most disheartening part of the whole process as we were out of pocket about $40k by the time we collected from insurance.
Expect the following from your insurance: your payment check will be made out to you AND your mortgage company. since they have a vested interest in you restoring your house, you will have to show you are using those funds to complete construction on your house. i could start a whole other thread on this subject...there are ways around it but be prepared for that disappointment. your personal content check will be made out to you, spend as you will.
so much to cover but i can't type it all here. i am busy in the field today, but i will try and check in if you have questions.
Good luck to all of you that have flooded and be patient...you WILL get thru this...there will be lots of highs and plenty of lows...but you will get thru this
my house flooded in March on the Tchefuncte river and my in-laws flooded off of Millerville a week ago, so i know what alot of you are going thru...i also am a home builder and maybe i can share my experiences and answer some questions..maybe i can help.
moisture content in wood - a general rule of thumb when closing up walls is to get your MC below 20%. Ideally you'd like to get to 16-17%, but depending on conditions and tightness of your home you may not be able to achieve this. talk to anyone outside of La and they will tell you below 10 percent...well guess what, you will never achieve that in south La. if you're running dehu's for a week and your readings are not dropping below 19-20% you may have to decide that is your baseline and call it quits. if your readings are still dropping, keep going until you get 48 hrs of a baseline reading. my house is raised with a wood subfloor so i had a lot of moisture to pull out before i could close it up.
mold-- i sprayed my house with microban (do not use bleach) when everything was dry and had still residual 'musty smell' that my wife just would not live with. we had the house tested and turned out we had two problem areas we had to address. long story short, we ended up fogging the house with a silver nitrate/hydrogen peroxide solution...problem solved. they charge by the cubic foot, not the sqft. had it re-tested and mold levels dropped and we were ready to close up walls.
moral of the story...don't be in a rush. just b/c your neighbor is closing up walls doesn't mean your falling behind and 'oh my god'!!!! we're such slackers. be patient, take your time. 1-3 weeks now will save you a huge headache down the road. move at your pace!, not some imaginery pace set by friends and family.
insurance-- our policy was\is with ASI. i have nothing but good things to say. some of you that have already been adjusted or still waiting...be prepared to wait a lengthy time before getting your check. La state law requires time frames for adjusters to respond to your claims...but during natural disasters, those time frames are waved. from the time our adjuster came and we rec'd his report back was 60 days!! and then another week to present it to the ins company and get paid. this was the most disheartening part of the whole process as we were out of pocket about $40k by the time we collected from insurance.
Expect the following from your insurance: your payment check will be made out to you AND your mortgage company. since they have a vested interest in you restoring your house, you will have to show you are using those funds to complete construction on your house. i could start a whole other thread on this subject...there are ways around it but be prepared for that disappointment. your personal content check will be made out to you, spend as you will.
so much to cover but i can't type it all here. i am busy in the field today, but i will try and check in if you have questions.
Good luck to all of you that have flooded and be patient...you WILL get thru this...there will be lots of highs and plenty of lows...but you will get thru this
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 7:52 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:59 am to lsuroadie
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 8:00 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:03 am to Notro
He didn't write that much and it was pretty informative. Have a downvote.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:13 am to lsuroadie
I have family who sprayed the houses with Jomax after gutting it. Is that adequate or do they need to go back with Microban?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:14 am to jbgleason
What do you know about moister meters? I see them priced from $30-$600. What kind of company did the mold testing and silver fogging? Just a mold remediation company?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:17 am to lsuroadie
pretty solid info, recommend to people going through process
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:21 am to chryso
quote:i have heard a lot of folks using Jomax...the mold / water resto projects i have had in the past Microban is used...i don't have any experience w/ Jomax but there are a ton of homemade remedies including boric acid, salts etc... but i can't speak to Jomax
I have family who sprayed the houses with Jomax after gutting it. Is that adequate or do they need to go back with Microban?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:22 am to lsuroadie
Thanks for this thread. My neighbors think I'm crazy for waiting a month to let the house air out. They are trying to put walls up this weekend and I think they are crazy
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:27 am to lsuroadie
We are going with BoraCare with MoldCare. Handles mold and termites.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:27 am to Rust Cohle
quote:there are a ton out there...for what you are using it for a cheap meter with probes that will PENETRATE wood is what's the key. don't use one that sits on the surface and pulls a reading from the surface.
What do you know about moister meters?
quote:La state law prevents a mold remediation and mold test company from performing the same work. they are independent of each other. US Restoration did the fogging...i believe they are franchised, and the guy in Madisonville is highly recommended.
What kind of company did the mold testing and silver fogging?
the company that did my mold test is from NO and was recognized from several different sources to one of the best. he's a one man show and i can email you his contact tonight if youd like.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:35 am to lsuroadie
Note on mold and spore testing. To be legit, they need to pull a sample from outside and compare that to the inside readings for a baseline. Depending on where you live and surrounding vegetation and other factors your "natural" count will vary. A reputable tester will do this.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:39 am to Notro
quote:
Notro
you have my permission to crawfish and edit your post with something helpful.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:40 am to lsuroadie
Bookmarked for later...Thanks!!!!!
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:45 am to Rust Cohle
quote:
moister meters
I'm not sure how well the cheap ones work but I know that the density of wood will affect readings. There is a woodworker on youtube who demonstrated this very well. A meter should have a chart and settings for different woods. A dense wood like ebony will have a much higher MC reading than a soft wood like pine. Obviously your house isn't framed with ebony but there will be a bit of difference in the yellow pine or spruce your house was almost certainly framed with. Ypine is more dense than spruce fyi.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:46 am to lsuroadie
Which Microban formula do you recommend for this type of remediation? I saw there were a couple different variations
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:04 am to tigerbutt
Mind me asking why you had to come out of pocket so much? How was the content itemization process?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:08 am to lsuroadie
quote:You should also lightly sand the 2x4's everywhere and vaccum dust with hepa vac before spraying. Knocking the light covering of mold off the surfaces before spraying is important and most (good) remediation companies do that.
mold-- i sprayed my house with microban (do not use bleach)
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 11:09 am
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