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re: Murder rate in chicago

Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10371 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:53 pm to
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The African-americans are up in arms saying "the cops aren't doing their jobs"!

If you stop them you are racist. If you don't, you aren't doing your job.



Well can't have it both ways.....those are some big boy decisions that the black community will have to decide in the future.

Safety vs the thug life....
Posted by Bushmaster
19th Hole
Member since Oct 2008
39961 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:53 pm to
I do to. Parts of it. It just seems to be greatly ignored to get to the root of the problem in this country in regards to violence and useless wastes of oxygen. We all know the cause and yet everyone afraid to say it.
Posted by Tarik One
Member since May 2016
2094 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:57 pm to
Most of Chicago's crime is isolated to certain areas. And it is mostly thug on thug. Not always but that is mostly the case. You rarely if ever hear about visitors becoming victims of crime. As a visitor you would really have to go looking for trouble to find it.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:00 pm to
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Tell me more about this.
The disappeared: Chicago police detain Americans at abuse-laden 'black site

Chicago magazine also writes some interesting articles about the corruption.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56769 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:05 pm to
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buckeye_vol



That is horrifying.

I have definitely taken a harder stance on violent criminals recently, but the idea of a citizen being deprived of literal Constitutional rights is abhorrent to me. The combination of power and applied prejudice that can exist in members of law enforcement is disturbing, but so is the common (narcotic) criminal lack of regard for life.....I know few solutions outside of a proctored legalization of hard drugs.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59342 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:07 pm to
It's hard to speed to a crime scene or active shooting in a majority black neighborhood knowing you will he chastised for anything you do. It's a fricked up situation but I can't say I blame the police
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:11 pm to
Send in the drones.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:13 pm to
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but the idea of a citizen being deprived of literal Constitutional rights is abhorrent to me.
Agreed. And it probably only exacerbates the problems, especially perception of the police.
quote:

The combination of power and applied prejudice that can exist in members of law enforcement is disturbing, but so is the common (narcotic) criminal lack of regard for life
But if the police have little regard as well, then who can we can we expect to show any normal decency?
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I know few solutions outside of a proctored legalization of hard drugs.
Problem is that the corrupt LEO'S, politicians, and criminals will all lose much of their power. Scary that they all benefit from the WODs.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59342 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:13 pm to
THat said, the Chicago PD haven't done themselves any favors in the past. Prior to tearing down some huge projects, a massive amount of the police were in the payroll of drug dealers to target and take down rivals. It's a long article but a pretty amazing read

Operation smoke and mirrors
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2008
5837 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:16 pm to
Do you fully support me not having to pay taxes or should I pay for the hell of it?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:17 pm to
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Your news is speculative in nature and pretending like you aren't passing an opinion and bias (not that there is necessarily anything wrong with bias) is clearly disengenuous.


Im parroting EXACTLY what was stated on 60 minutes. I find them to be a pretty unbiased source of news, and this information is directly from interviews on the show.

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Then you are slow, but more likely you are just dishonest and unwilling to have an actual conversation.


I'll have a conversation. Thats why i started this thread. Why don't you start by making a statement instead of asking a bunch of vague questions and then state that I don't want to have a conversation just because I didn't answer them
Posted by Bushmaster
19th Hole
Member since Oct 2008
39961 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:18 pm to
One of y'all need to
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56769 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

Do you fully support me not having to pay taxes or should I pay for the hell of it?



I don't want anyone to pay taxes.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95091 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:21 pm to
I'm actually all for the national guard going into the South and West side of Chicago. They want to act like animals, get treated like animals.

Because you know some dumbass that thinks they're hard will end up shooting a NG soldier and it's a shitstorm from there.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
44184 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:21 pm to
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Chicago magazine also writes some interesting articles about the corruption.


That's crazy and not very smart on their part.
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7644 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:23 pm to
This site outlines all the Chicago murder stictics updated daily.

Heyjackass
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