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re: Multi-Family Housing Is A Viable Yet Overlooked Path For Home Ownership

Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:18 am to
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:18 am to
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Besides, if someone can't qualify for the median priced SF house (as Stout discusses above), they are not gonna qualify for a MF.


my post was not aimed at people who can't afford a home it was more for the people who are scared to get into home ownership. Having a rental income to help cover a mortgage is a significant benefit most overlook.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1521 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:33 am to
As long as it isn’t in my neighborhood. No thanks to the trouble that comes with multi-family and/or Section 8.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29227 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:36 am to
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but the sunbelt cities generally don't have very much to offer.


Because zoning in most of these cities either prioritizes single family homes or apartments.

Missing middle housing (townhomes/duplexes/triplexes) is sorely needed.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29227 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:38 am to
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As long as it isn’t in my neighborhood. No thanks to the trouble that comes with multi-family and/or Section 8.



You'd have a problem with something like this?

Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
1680 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:39 am to
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No thanks to the trouble that comes with multi-family and/or Section 8.


Legit Question...Are you aware that if you own rental property you are NOT required to take section 8 tenants?
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
1680 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:39 am to
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No thanks to the trouble that comes with multi-family and/or Section 8.


Legit Question...Are you aware that if you own rental property you are NOT required to take section 8 tenants?
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
1680 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:41 am to
Apparently he thinks 100% of renters are sec 8 tenants
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18447 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:44 am to
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There are too many "no go" zones in American cities. If we could deal with the crime problem, we could make a lot of areas that are already built more attractive. And the people that already own in those areas would benefit greatly.


We need the El Salvador president to come consult here.

And it’s very true that our housing issues would open up if ghettos were safer. There are many beautiful homes in the Birmingham area that sit run down because miscreants have fricked those areas.

Ensley is the local joke of Birmingham, but you can find some excellent architecture there.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13639 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:48 am to
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What a terrible way to live.



A nice townhome can be a great way to live for a newly married couple or older folks that don't want the upkeep of a bigger property.

Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
1680 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:50 am to
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Ensley is the local joke of Birmingham, but you can find some excellent architecture there.


Don't you DARE gentrify that area and make it better/safer/nicer
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1521 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:30 pm to
No. A double in the city with high rent isn’t unusual. In the typical suburban neighborhood, a double or townhouse seems to turn to trash. A family who purchased to live alongside elderly parents might work, but otherwise they seem to turn dumpy.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30104 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:41 pm to
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Multi-Family Housing Is A Viable Yet Overlooked Path For Home Ownership


guy down the street did this, 10 years ago, he bought a 4 BR house and moved into the garage, while he rented out the 4 BR and he paid the 15 year house note off, with just their rent money, and now he has a fully paid for house, without using any of his own money to pay for it.

he has now moved out of garage and back into the house and still rents out 2 of the BR and he does mechanic work in the garage to make extra money. he often has no less than 6-8 trucks parked in his yard waiting to be worked on.

Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8698 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:01 pm to
When we lived in the French Quarter, I had met a man who owned a huge number of rental units there. He was well known for being rich and dressing poor.
I was at city hall one day checking on ownership of a lot that was going to be auctioned. He and his wife were there checking on a different property. He introduced me to his wife AND lawyer. I said "well, that's convenient". they both laughed and she said that several years earlier they realized their lawyer bills were too high and it would be cheaper for her to go to law school up town that to continue to hire lawyers. So she did, and it was one of the best decisions they had ever made.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1521 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:11 pm to
In a proper location for them. Not in a single family neighborhood lined up like that. The projects were rebuilt “nice” after Katrina. I still wouldn’t want to live there or have them scattered through my neighborhood. The city such as uptown and mid-city NOLA would be suitable because already plenty of doubles/multi-family dwellings.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2090 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:41 pm to
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There are too many "no go" zones in American cities.


I've lived in multiple cities with bad reps and this is 100% correct. A lot of the houses in those areas could be very nice places as well, its really a shame.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15690 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:51 pm to
There's really no difference between that and the cookie cutters that are 3 feet from each other. But those kind of units have a stigma for attracting trash so I get the apprehension.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18925 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:57 pm to
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A 2 bedroom condo with a decent patio and garage would be a solid choice for first time home buyers.


I agree with this. I didn't buy my first stand alone house on a decent lot until much later. I started in a condo and then a little "garden home" and built up equity and savings before I made the jump to a house in a decent subdivision. I spent time there before finally establishing equity, savings and career advancement to where I bought a nice house in a nice neighborhood. Seems like some people want the whole package dropped in their lap from the get go.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
2904 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:19 pm to
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People have been doing this in New Orleans for decades.





Most of the housing stock in New Orleans was built before the 60's, zoning pretty much outlawed this in most US cities.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4326 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:44 pm to
I bought and lived in half of a shotgun double after my divorce; rented the other side. It helped pay the bills and got me on my way to financial recovery way quicker than renting an apartment or struggling to pay a mortgage on a house with one income while paying child support. When I sold it 13 years later I had enough equity to buy a condo on the water and a shitty rental duplex with the cash. The shitty duplex was later exchanged for a large timberland. Doubles are great for owner occupants.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4912 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:46 pm to
If you can’t afford a single family home how you going to afford multi?

Also before you say rent em out etc, finding reliable tenants is hard and you’re at risk of vacancy
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