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Mt. Vernon, Searcy site (former Confederate arsenal/mental asylum)from 1830s endangered

Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:03 am
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:03 am
AL.com - Mt. Searcy

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Hidden behind a nearly 200-year-old stone wall, one of Alabama’s most important historical sites is rapidly deteriorating. The site, which is one of two of the nation’s first federal arsenals to survive, was also used to house Geronimo and Apache prisoners and then became the Mount Vernon Asylum for the Colored Insane, later known as Searcy Hospital.




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In the small south Alabama town of Mount Vernon, buildings from the 1830s, mingled with modern construction, are slowly being consumed by kudzu, time and apathy. The National Trust for Historic Preservation said in its listing: “This arsenal was held by the Confederacy during the Civil War and housed Geronimo and approximately 400 Apache prisoners of war during the 1880s and 1890s. The hospital complex served as a segregated mental health facility for African Americans after 1900. The complex closed in 2012 and is currently vacant and deteriorating.”




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Among the dozens of surviving buildings, more than 30 are of historic value, including those that housed, at differing times, Geronimo, a Civil War militia, Dr. Walter Reed and African American mental patients. Many of them date to the time when the site was used as one of the nation’s inaugural 14 arsenals, marking the first time the United States created a unified military defense force. Of those 14, only Mount Vernon and Kennebec Arsenal in Maine, which also later became an asylum, survive intact, according to Mobile historian Devereaux Bemis.






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Geronimo while held at Mt. Vernon




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The photo above from 1935 shows a school that was built at Mount Vernon to teach Apache children. It no longer stands.






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The photo above shows the munitions lab/morgue in 2016.




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The photo above shows Apache prisoners at Mount Vernon.

This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 10:10 am
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:04 am to
God bless those men
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:05 am to
The SJWs will want it torn down, not restored
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:05 am to
Would be cool to shoot a movie in there
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:06 am to
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Would be cool to shoot a movie in there


no doubt about it. I'm currently trying to figure out how I can go explore without detection.
Posted by DustyDinkleman
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:19 am to
Bet that would be a fun place to ghost hunt
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:27 am to
yea. I wanna go see if I can find some old Confederate artifacts
Posted by Itismemc
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:31 am to
Its been ghost hunted, it's right off Tuscaloosa's main campus. There was a pretty cool ablum of it abondoned floating around. We went on a field trip in 98 before it closed for psych class, it was in a very sad state then, but at least it was something for the people in the state.
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:34 am to
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Its been ghost hunted, it's right off Tuscaloosa's main campus. There was a pretty cool ablum of it abondoned floating around. We went on a field trip in 98 before it closed for psych class, it was in a very sad state then, but at least it was something for the people in the state.


that is Bryce Hospital. This is in Mobile and called Searcy.
Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 4:23 pm to
I'm familiar with Searcy Hospital. My grandfather was mayor of Mt. Vernon for around 15 years from about the late '70s to the early '90s. My grandmother worked at Searcy.

I was very young at the time - not even a teenager - but I spent many days there.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 4:37 pm to

Man, that place is an abortion of a site. It could be salvaged but I'm not sure it's worth the money and trouble.
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:49 am to
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but I spent many days there.


would love to hear more about this
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:51 am to
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It could be salvaged but I'm not sure it's worth the money and trouble.


yea, I mean, it's pretty done for. But, I would imagine some of the buildings and relics could at least be preserved in their current state. Anywhere Geronimo is special. Not to mention the other reasons.
Posted by Chuker
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:05 am to
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not sure it's worth the money and trouble.




I don't understand the obsession with preserving old buildings. People go head over heels and spend too much time and resources worrying about keeping a building around that is past its useful life. While a 300yo building seems old to us, its really just a blink of the eye in anthropological terms.
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:25 am to
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300yo building seems old


People in Europe laugh and say: “The bathroom in my condo is 300 years old.”
Posted by Chuker
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:31 am to
exactly my point. 300 years isn't anything to get wound up about. Let it dilapidate and turn back into nature like everything eventually will.

I for one find it awesome how nature is constantly trying to reclaim its property.
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:38 am to
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exactly my point. 300 years isn't anything to get wound up about. Let it dilapidate and turn back into nature like everything eventually will.

I for one find it awesome how nature is constantly trying to reclaim its property.


so in your view, we should just let anything turn back into nature. Hell, let the pyramids fall, let the Alamo turn to ruins...

Preserving human history is awesome.
Posted by Areddishfish
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:47 am to
3:1 odds it is haunted as frick
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:53 am to
I can not imagine how terrible it would be to live in an insane asylum for "colored people" in 19th century Alabama. Hell insane asylums for whites were a nightmare.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 9:54 am
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:21 am to
Conferderate you say? Oh well just tear it down then.
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