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re: Mother upset about response time for sons wreck
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:36 am to lostinbr
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:36 am to lostinbr
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ETA: The article says that the Ford 911 assist activates any time the airbags deploy. So I think it’s easy to look at it and go “frick man, you know the airbags were deployed.” But the 911 operator/dispatcher may not know exactly how that particular system works and as stated in the article, they get a shitload of accidental 911 calls/hang-ups.
Depending on watch and iPhone Apple also has a crash detection emergency notifications. Ford’s airbag deployment seems like it would be more accurate, but at speed driver was going Apple would have picked it up unless it wasn’t set up. Apple’s is supposed to allow car’s emergency call to go through and car’s process to continue unimpeded (it does disconnect non-emergency calls if crash detected in order to make emergency calls), but the disconnects make me wonder if Apple’s did try and caused the disconnect issue.
It seems weird that Ford’s went thru watch to get phone to call. Maybe watch was only thing synced with car. Normally I would think Ford’s service would just go straight thru to the phone to make calls, but Ford might do something like Apple’s emergency service where if person has watch & iphone the emergency call’s audio goes thru watch as it likely on them (but car likely has speaker phone built in to use for this). It seems like with atypical set ups or out of date software there is some potential for the 2 services to have some initial conflicts.
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:38 am to Sidicous
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Please point to this Right as defined by law in either state or federal law/constitution.
Thank God most Americans never move to a foriegn land, they would be shocked.
You are a number everywhere else in this world outside this country. The fact we even deployed people to find a dead body should illustrate just how much money we spend on one person, who was committing a crime at the time of death.
This would not happen in Europe or anywhere else for that matter. They dont put 1/4th of the effort into solving crimes etc.
Yet we still want more.
Oh and they pay more tax so dont rebuttle with your tax bs.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 11:40 am
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:39 am to Chad504boy
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the amount of taxes we pay in this state, its easy to argue that we should be given better service.
Maybe our taxes are going towards frivolous lawsuits.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:43 am to Aguga
People think 911 is some magical number you call and the Calvary just shows up 5 minutes later. ANYONE who has called 911 and spent 10 minutes trying to tell a $10/hr 911 dispatcher where they are or what is going on fully understands how the calvary isn't showing up for quite a while. There is nothing quick about 911 anywhere.
And that's with a live person phone call. Add in automated and it's going to be a bit. That's why you carry a firearm and have a medical kit. Sometimes you will get lucky and there will be a patrol close by, but usually help is a good drive away. 911 isn't some magic portal to swoop your dumbass up and teleport you to the hospital.
And that's with a live person phone call. Add in automated and it's going to be a bit. That's why you carry a firearm and have a medical kit. Sometimes you will get lucky and there will be a patrol close by, but usually help is a good drive away. 911 isn't some magic portal to swoop your dumbass up and teleport you to the hospital.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:44 am to gumbo2176
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Not much sympathy from me for being legally drunk and driving at that speed on public roads.
It could have been me or some of my family that he killed. Sorry, no sympathy given.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:46 am to OU812ME2
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People think 911 is some magical number you call and the Calvary just shows up 5 minutes later. ANYONE who has called 911 and spent 10 minutes trying to tell a $10/hr 911 dispatcher
Haha, they are paid better than that sir.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:47 am to Aguga
“We need to sue to see if we need to sue!”
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:48 am to AFtigerFan
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In the article it says the mom and dad listened to the recordings, and they believe they can hear their son faintly saying, "Help me" to the dispatcher.
I don’t believe this. I’m pretty sure when ford assist or apple calls 911 to play a message, the line isn’t open for someone to speak.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:54 am to Keith13
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its stated the 2nd call came into 911 and an officer then was dispatched 4 mins later and arrived on scene 20 mins later once he located the wreck.
I did this (responded to MVAs) for 25 years. People don't realize how much time passes.
Not enough info given. A LEO was dispatched to scene. Normal for a vague call such as that. LEOs don't usually have training for paramedic duty. He/she then has to call in for EMS or fire.
My experience is Mom needs someone to blame instead of her speeding drunk son. This is a non-issue.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:57 am to OU812ME2
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The kid was legally drunk doing 113mph
This is the biggest problem with the story.
Government is not going to always be there as a safety net when you do stupid shite.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:01 pm to Redbone
15,000 false phone calls to that 911. Fifteen frickin' thousand false calls and in that 27 were valid.
Do you know how huge a group of responders it would take to answer that number of hang ups, etc.?
It was the middle of the night, no one saw it happen, the car didn't catch fire. How far off the road was the crash. GPS isn't going to tell you that. Nor did it.
Do you know how huge a group of responders it would take to answer that number of hang ups, etc.?
It was the middle of the night, no one saw it happen, the car didn't catch fire. How far off the road was the crash. GPS isn't going to tell you that. Nor did it.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:01 pm to OU812ME2
The article says they receive 15,000 hang ups on 911 calls last year and only 26 of those were actual emergencies.
Not hard to figure out why they didn’t take it as an emergency initially.
Also, this must have happened past Ben Hur since EBRSO responded?
Not hard to figure out why they didn’t take it as an emergency initially.
Also, this must have happened past Ben Hur since EBRSO responded?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:03 pm to OU812ME2
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ANYONE who has called 911 and spent 10 minutes trying to tell
You could have stopped right there. Your ignorance is showing. There are things going on in the background you don't know about. Tones to the correct stations and services. Some trucks have computers with written info coming in. Important info verbalized to vehicles after dispatch. combinations of these plus other stuff.
Just do your part. Give them the info they are asking for. If you have to cut it short in order to help then say so. Help will be on the way.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:06 pm to dallastigers
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It seems weird that Ford’s went thru watch to get phone to call.
Looking at the article again, I don’t think it did:
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Jordan's Apple watch told a different story. He had been wearing it at the time of the crash.
"I looked through the call history and I noticed there were two calls placed from his phone to 911 that morning around 1:35 and 1:36 about a minute apart."
After doing some research, Kendra found out his Apple watch was connected to his phone, which was synched to his Ford Mustang.
Could be that he had a passcode on his phone but not the watch, so that’s where the mom got the call history. Article actually says the call was placed through his phone which makes more sense.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:07 pm to Keith13
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Apparently his watched dialed 911 twice
EMS probably treats these like automated security system calls, low priority.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:12 pm to BregmansWheelbarrow
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I don’t believe this. I’m pretty sure when ford assist or apple calls 911 to play a message, the line isn’t open for someone to speak.
For Apple if you're able to respond
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If you need to contact emergency services, swipe the Emergency Call slider on the screen of your device. Your device makes the call to emergency services and you can speak to a responder.
If unresponsive, can’t stop countdown, and then Apple service makes the call the line appears to be open with recorded message playing at lower volume after first message played.
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When your device makes this automatic call, it plays a looped audio message to emergency responders and out loud over your device speakers. This message informs emergency services that your Apple device detected a severe car crash and that you're unresponsive. It also shares your estimated latitude and longitude coordinates with a search radius.
The message plays in the primary language of the country that you're in and repeats at five second intervals. After the first time, it plays at a reduced volume, so that you or someone nearby can talk on the call to the emergency responder. You can also stop the recorded message.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:14 pm to AFtigerFan
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In the article it says the mom and dad listened to the recordings, and they believe they can hear their son faintly saying, "Help me" to the dispatcher.
I listened to that. You could distinctly hear vehicles passing, and the "help me" was, to me, the sound of debris on the road being run over. In the mom's state of mind, I accept the imagination running wild though.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:38 pm to rob0710
quote:retirement.
Maybe our taxes are going towards frivolous lawsuits.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:54 pm to eatpie
Wait so cars just passed and didn’t stop? wtf man
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